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FAQ/Move List by Master_Warlord7

Updated: 09/19/17



Grim is a very, very simplistic character with a strong projectile and a Side Special to whack away at enemies. While that's okay, Grim's non special attacks are generally pretty terrible and make him a very simplistic and mindless character to play.

Neutral Special: Grim launches a green crescent shaped projectile forwards. He can spam the move quite quickly and it's one of the most damaging projectiles, dealing 10%, with knockback that can even eventually kill people by itself as it sends Grim's enemies vertically. The projectile doesn't have totally infinite range, going forwards about 4/5ths of the distance of the Kid's Next Door 1 (treehouse) stage. This is still more than enough range to do what you want, and if spammed constantly you can easily have 3 of them on-screen at a time, with the fourth one briefly existing as the first one fades out. The range cap is the projectile's only downside, one of the best in the game.

Side Special: Grim does a generic swing of his scythe. This is a powerful hitbox that deals 12% and absolutely massive knockback. This is Grim's strongest move knockback wise and outclasses a lot of heavyweight attacks from characters like Father and Vilgax in terms of knockback despite the strangely somewhat low damage, and is still plenty fast as a melee move.

Up Special: Grim spins and generically ascends upwards for a decent recovery, though a terrible attack given it does 7% and average knockback along with him. It does its job as a generic recovery.

Down Special: Grim pounds his scythe into the ground, causing an aura of green fire to be summoned around himself. This does 25 hits of 1% and flinching, and puts Grim and his foe into a frame neutral state afterwards. Given the slow nature of Grim's jab and the terrible range on his grab, Grim is not likely going to win the "quick draw" contest of who mashes in an attack first after the attack's hitbox ends. If the foe isn't right next to Grim at point blank, oftentimes he's best off just going for his all powerful Side Special, which is still very fast and won't leave the foe much time to respond with anything that has as good of range as it does. If in super close range, Grim should probably opt for the grab instead. This "combo" works decently on computer players with them usually not beating it out. The Down Special is also a fairly effective tool against story mode enemies. This move is still not all that great against human players considering it produces zero Final Smash pickups for some reason.

Final Smash: Grim summons a portal in front of himself that's very large that deals 55% and very high upwards knockback. This knockback is surprisingly meager by Grim's standards and is less likely to kill people than his Side Special, though 55% still makes it worth using when you have it available. A below average Final Smash, though not terrible.

Forward Smash: Grim does a swing of his scythe forwards with slightly greater reach than his Side Special, but less vertical range. This deals 13% and arguably less knockback than the Side Special, and is very slightly slower. Mostly useful for reaching out slightly farther, though Side Special is so superior most of the time you're not going to remember to use this move.

Up Smash: Grim spins his scythe above himself, dealing multiple hits of flinching that total to 15% damage. This attack is so mediocre that unlike Down Special, it doesn't even put him in a frame neutral state with the foe and is instead unsafe on hit, and it doesn't produce any Final Smash pickups either. Avoid this horrible move. If you land it for some reason, desperately spam grab to try to defend yourself after it's done in case the foe has a low reaction time.

Down Smash: Grim swings his scythe in front of himself, dealing 17% and launching foes upwards. After the attack completes, Grim for some reason puts his hand over his eyes to block out the sun to be able to see better and looks upwards, presumably at where his foe was sent flying (even if he didn't hit them). This animation gives the attack ending lag it doesn't need, making it a mediocre attack even if the upwards launching knockback is quite strong. The main thing that makes this attack border on just being terrible is that this will miss short characters if used at point blank range for whatever reason, making the hitbox not be as large as it appears. This is Grim's only launching attack to do vertical knockback, making him pretty bad on those stages where that's the way he has to kill people.

Jab: Grim does a series of 3 scythe swings that total to 8% with terrible knockback on the last hit. This jab is not only slow, but Grim advances forwards as he does the attack with very awkward specific hitboxes in front of himself. The first two hits only flinch enemies like all other jabs in the game, and as such jab 1 will very, very rarely combo into jab 2 and make the attack only do 6% total while giving the foe the chance to get out of the jab combo. Jab 1 will at least combo to jab 3 to not make this attack be a total joke by itself. The jab cannot be canceled into anything helpful, grab and maybe Neutral Special projectile at best. Jab to Side Special is bordering on whether it's a true combo or not, but jab is not easy to hit with either and all you're tacking on for comboing jab 1 to something else is a token 2% which is worthless.

Dashing Attack: Grim comes to a stop as he spins his scythe in front of himself, dealing several flinching hits that total to 9%. This is not safe on hit and produces no Final Smash pickups. An awful unusable move.

Up Tilt: Grim pokes his scythe upwards, dealing 4% and very weak knockback. The knockback scales vertically but there is enough base horizontal knockback that foes will be knocked too far away for Grim to combo into anything besides his Neutral Special, which should consistently combo into the attack at low percents. The attack has such low range against grounded enemies in front of Grim that I can't recommend it, especially with how little damage it does.

Down Tilt: Grim's scythe spins down on the ground in front of himself for 2 hits of 4% and flinching. This attack is not safe on hit and does not scale to do knockback, so it's terrible and unusable.

Neutral Aerial: Grim swings his scythe to either side of himself, first behind him then in front of him. Each swing does 6% and very weak knockback. This attack's hitbox is very specific and it's incredibly awkward it hits behind him the first time. The knockback is so pathetic that it borders on being unsafe on hit.

Side Aerial: Grim swings his scythe in front of himself, dealing 9% and high forwards knockback. This attack is blatantly a faster, weaker Side Special, which is good considering Side Special is amazing, having roughly the same hitbox as that move. This can hit even the shortest of grounded enemies from a shorthop, though it's kind of difficult. Side Special is generally recommended over side aerial when attacking grounded enemies just to avoid the risk of interrupting the move by landing. In any case, it's a powerful move that helps make Grim threatening off-stage.

Up Aerial: Grim spins his scythe above himself, dealing 6% and flinching for another useless aerial that doesn't do knockback for some reason. As usual, the ending lag is too long to exploit the foe's incredibly brief stun. Don't use this.

Down Aerial: Grim punts his scythe downwards, dealing 12% and strong forwards knockback. The hitbox is pretty small and as such it's not going to see any real use against grounded enemies despite the fact it's possible to hit them with this aerial, but it can potentially be worth it to use on enemies recovering below you off-stage.

Grab and Throw: Grim's hand very slightly enlarges as he does a grabbing motion in front of himself, not reaching forwards at all. This grab has decent speed but obviously quite bad range. The throw deals 4% with the usual low base knockback, but scales strangely to do strong vertical knockback, which sadly means it stops comboing into things quickly. Grim's throw when at 30% or under can combo into not only his Neutral Special projectile, but his mighty Side Special! When at the upper limits of when the throw will combo to Side Special, using the throw + Side Special combo at the ledge can kill people outright depending on the stage.

Relevant Attacks (8/17): Neutral Special, Side Special, Up Special (recovery only), Final Smash, Down Smash, Side Aerial, Down Aerial, Grab/Throw

Useless Attacks (7/17): Down Special, Up Smash, Jab, Dashing Attack, Down Tilt, Neutral Aerial, Up Aerial

Analysis: While Grim has a lot of useless attacks, his Side Special and side aerial are his core spammable melee moves and are all he's going to need, especially in tandem with his projectile. He has a powerful advantage state when he's knocked the enemy off the stage. He can send a token slow moving Neutral Special projectile before he jumps off after the enemy to pursue them with his two main melee attacks, or potentially even throw in a dair if he's feeling "creative." His grab into Side Special combo can potentially net some cheap combos on some stages at around 30%. Grim struggles to build his Final Smash meter and shouldn't go out of his way to do it anyway given it's not all that great even when he gets it going. The few attacks Grim has that are good do a decent job of carrying him through matches, but he suffers in how predictable he is. Grim also does very poorly when he has to actually rely on his Dsmash to kill people because of a gimmicky stage rather than his vastly preferable Side Special.


Official Developer Given Statistics: Speed 1/5 Power 5/5 Air 3/5 Range 5/5