help with abolishing card rules?

  1. I've had real trouble abolishing card rules on this version (switch), does anybody know if this is a remaster thing or a switch thing? aka the switch have a terrible rng? alternatively, does anyone know how to soft reset the switch like you could/can ps? thanks.

    User Info: Ekkorn

    Ekkorn - 1 week ago

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  1. I did NOT come up with any of this, somebody named "geckodogma" found out how to easily abolish or spread rules in the Remasterd version of Final Fantasy 8 (all ports), and I'm not stealing credit. They posted their instructions here, and I'm merely sharing them here so that thread isn't lost:

    https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/197343-final-fantasy-viii/77986804

    - To move Queen from Balamb to Dollet:
    Hard reset (or use Exit), load save in Balamb hotel. Go to the area with the junk shop and Thunder draw point. This draw point must not be empty. Check and refuse draw 8 times. Move on to the Queen and challenge her. Lose a rare card, and she will move to Dollet.

    - Abolish Random from Dollet while Queen is there:
    Carrying Galbadia/Timber's rules: Open, Same.
    Dollet's current rules: Open, Random, Elemental. (Spread Open first using Timber's Open+Same, then go back to Timber and pick up its rules without mixing)
    Save at Dollet Hotel.
    Abolish Random: Load save at Dollet Hotel. Go outside, challenge the old man and refuse 2 times. Challenge him again, accept. Quit game. Random has been abolished.

    - Spread Open to Trabia:
    NPC: Trabia student in Galbadia Garden.
    Save at G-Garden Hall.
    Carrying Dollet's rules: Open, Elemental
    Trabia's current rules: Plus, Random (starting rules)
    Reset, load save, run straight to the room with Trabia student, check/refuse Life draw point once. Challenge/refuse the student twice. Challenge again, accept, and quit. Open has been spread.

    - Abolish Random from Trabia:
    NPC: Trabia student in Galbadia Garden.
    Save at G-Garden Hall.
    Carrying Galbadia's rules: Open, Same
    Trabia's current rules: Open, Plus, Random
    Reset, load save, run straight to the room with Trabia student, check/refuse Life draw point 6 times. Challenge the student, accept, and quit. Random has been abolished.

    - Abolish Elemental from FH:
    NPC: Flo
    Queen is not in FH
    Save at FH.
    Carrying Galbadia's rules: Open, Same
    FH's current rules: Open, Elemental, Sudden Death (Open has been spread during Disc 1 in Deling City)
    Reset, load save, check/refuse Regen draw point 3 times. Run to Flo in her house. Challenge Flo, accept, quit game. Elemental has been abolished.

    - Abolish Random from Centra/Winhill:
    NPC: Card player outside the Winhill shop (first screen in Winhill)
    Queen is not in Centra
    Save at the world map outside Winhill
    Carrying Dollet's rules: Open, Elemental
    Centra's current rules: Open, Random, Same, Plus (spread Open first)
    Reset, load save, challenge/refuse 4 times. Challenge, accept, quit game. Random has been abolished.

    - Abolish Plus from Centra/Winhill:
    NPC: Card player outside the Winhill shop (first screen in Winhill)
    Queen is not in Centra
    Save at the world map outside Winhill
    Carrying Dollet's rules: Open, Elemental
    Centra's current rules: Open, Same, Plus
    Reset, load save, challenge/refuse 8 times. Challenge, accept, quit game. Plus has been abolished.

    - Abolish Same from Centra/Winhill:
    NPC: Card player outside the Winhill shop (first screen in Winhill)
    Queen is not in Centra
    Save at the world map outside Winhill
    Carrying Dollet's rules: Open, Elemental
    Centra's current rules: Open, Same
    Reset, load save, move into Winhill. Take the path on the right to the next screen, and then keep going to the next one. There is a draw point here (Drain), make sure it is not empty. Check/refuse draw 20 times. Go back the same way, to the first screen with the shop. Challenge/refuse the npc 3 times. Challenge, accept, quit game. Same has been abolished.

    I'll share the rest of geckodogma's steps in another reply.

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    Red_Maxx_XIII - 1 week ago 1   0
  2. - Abolish Elemental from Lunar (before flying to space):
    NPC: guard on the right, in front of Lunar gate
    Queen is not in Lunar
    Save just outside Tears Point
    Carrying Esthar's rules: Open, Elemental, Same Wall (hidden)
    Lunar has all rules.
    Reset, load save, move into Tears Point.
    Check/refuse Life draw point 9 times (this draw point must not be empty). Go back to the world map and head to Lunar gate. Challenge the npc until he accepts (he refuses the first 3 challenges), accept, then quit game. Elemental has been abolished.

    - Abolish Random from Lunar (before flying to space):
    NPC: guard on the right, in front of Lunar gate
    Queen is not in Lunar
    Save just outside Tears Point
    Carrying Esthar's rules: Open, Elemental, Same Wall (hidden)
    Lunar has all rules except Elemental
    Reset, load save, move into Tears Point.
    Check/refuse Life draw point 8 times (this draw point must not be empty). Go back to the world map and head to Lunar gate. Challenge the npc until he accepts (he refuses the first 3 challenges), accept, then quit game. Random has been abolished.

    - Abolish Plus from Lunar (before flying to space):
    NPC: guard on the right, in front of Lunar gate
    Queen is not in Lunar
    Save just outside Tears Point
    Carrying Esthar's rules: Open, Elemental, Same Wall (hidden)
    Lunar's current rules: Open, Sudden Death, Same, Plus, Same Wall
    Reset, load save, move into Tears Point.
    Check/refuse Life draw point 16 times (this draw point must not be empty). Go back to the world map and head to Lunar gate. Challenge the npc until he accepts (he refuses the first 3 challenges), accept, then quit game. Plus has been abolished.

    These steps work almost immediately when you first try them, except for one case where I may have messed up and it took 3 attempts. Also, sorry, but there's no Soft Reset in the Remasterd port.

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    Red_Maxx_XIII - 1 week ago
  3. THANK YOU!!!! i was further along, i'd already abolished most rules, so mine were slightly different, but i could not for the life of me get random gone from centra. it's gone now, so thank you so much.

    User Info: Ekkorn

    Ekkorn - 1 week ago

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