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User Info: trsmith99

trsmith99
8 years ago#1
I've been playing Dirt 2 for nearly a year. I have successfully managed all the offline tracks and enjoy racing online. I just use the standard PS3 controller and run "automatic" transmissions.

I was thinking of getting a Force Wheel and I am interested in everyone's feedback/experience as to which wheel is the best (and why) and which wheel is the worst (and why).

I am expecting that a wheel will add a whole new level of fun to the game - as long as its the right one! ; >

Thoughts....?
Opinions....?

User Info: cody4783

cody4783
8 years ago#2
For me, it's got to be a wheel ALL the way, in nearly all my racing games.
I'm a proud owner of a Logitech G27 (Roughly a $250 wheel..) and the metal pedals and H-Patter manual shifter is just amazing. A controller doesn't even compete once you get used to a wheel and manual transmission.

The feel is just so much nicer with a wheel, and a controller just can't compete. Much more controlled turns (No figiting with joy sticks), much better throttle and braking control, and with Force Feedback, a better grasp for the feel of the track and vehicles themselves.


Now, which wheel is best entirely depends on your budget.
I am completely convinced that getting the "Cheapest" wheel you can find as a first time experience is a terrible idea. You don't have to go all-out on several-hundred-dollar setups, but avoid off brand eBay junk. I bought a $20 crummy plasticy wheel my first time, and it was awful; I absolutely hated it in comparison to a controller, and it ruined the fun in games.

However, a bit over a year ago I bought a Logitech Driving Force Pro for $50 used off eBay, and my whole opinion on wheels changed. The wheel's control was tight and precise, there are pseudo-paddle shifters under the wheel, and a sequential stick to make quick off-wheel shifts. It made playing games a completely different experience.


So with that down, if you are actually serious about trying a wheel (And don't want to spend a fortune), getting a used one and spending around $35-$50 minimum would be my recommendation. Logitech has a few wheels that fit nicely into this range, and have good build quality to make it worth while; To name a couple:
Driving Force Pro
Driving Force GT
Logitech MoMo Force



The only thing is: A wheel DOES take some getting used to. You likely won't be able to just jump in and run at the same level as the controller you've practiced with. But once you get familiar with a wheel (And optimally using Manual gearboxes), you should easily be able to got a good deal faster than with a controller and Auto transmission.
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User Info: trsmith99

trsmith99
8 years ago#3
Thanks Cody!

I did not want/plan on going the "inexpesive" route - but want to find something that actually will take the game to the next level. I can't say budget is NOT a consideration, but want to make sure I get the best "bang for the buck".

I appreciate you feedback on the Logitec Force Pro (e-bay, here I come). Other than the "inexpensive" unit you previously tried, have you tried any of the others? How did they stack up?

Separately....
Out of curiousity, how do the "logistics" work? Do you sit on the couch with the unit on your lap? Do you have the wheel mounted to something (like at a desk or table)?

Thanks again!

T-

User Info: cody4783

cody4783
8 years ago#4
Glad to hear you are stepping past the bottom of the bin. I've seen people that start with something like the Microsoft wheel for the Xbox 360, and are just completely turned off to wheels, because THAT one isn't very great.

From: trsmith99 | #003
Other than the "inexpensive" unit you previously tried, have you tried any of the others? How did they stack up?


Unfortunately, no, I haven't owned any others. The DFP was my second attempt to get into them, and I went straight to the G27 without looking back. With the DFP I wanted something I knew was better than the cheap-o wheel, and after that I didn't really want to side-grade into something around the same level.

Out of curiousity, how do the "logistics" work? Do you sit on the couch with the unit on your lap? Do you have the wheel mounted to something (like at a desk or table)?


That depends on your personal setup. For me, I have a pretty heavy (Sturdy) computer desk that sits at a workable height, and I clamp the wheel to that. I'm using a regular computer/office chair in my setup (Admittedly not the best. The chair's on wheels and I've got a bit of rope to tie my chair to the desk so it doesn't roll away. XD). The pedals sit comfortably underneath my desk.


But if your setup is different and there are "Wheel Stands" that you can buy. Typically those are expensive, at around $100-$200 easily. For example:
http://www.wheelstandpro.us/servlet/the-2/GT-Driving-Force-Momo/Detail
http://www.wheelstandpro.us/servlet/the-4/G25-G27-Logitech-Racing/Detail

On the other hand, if you're reasonably handy with tools, you can build one for $20 or so (depending on price of materials in your area):
http://berserk.org/gt4/

These options are adjustable and give you more options for height in a variety of situations.

There are some wheels that allow for, or have adapters to let you have it in your lap/mount it to a stand use hang your legs over on a seat, but they tend to feel flimsy and let the wheel move about once you get aggressive. The cheap-o wheel I used had a lap-mounting option.
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User Info: cody4783

cody4783
8 years ago#5
http://forums.forzamotorsport.net/blogs/turn_10s_forza_motorsport_blog/archive/2009/07/22/wheel-stand-info.aspx

A different concept on th DIY stand. A bit bigger, but probably more stable. Not adjustable either.
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