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What about the places that are good to camp when dogs are around.... Like if you try to take on dogs in the comm hut (SNN) its pure chaos because of open spaces. However if you take them on behind the desk that is near the doc hut then even if the door is open dogs only come from three EASILY visible places. In Der Riese there are three extremely good places to fend off dogs.. The first is in the main room on the left side of the PaP machine. The other two are the tunnel that has the dog print on the stairs aka Dog Tunnel. The final is the Metal path above "C". I was experimenting... if you get the knife (and juggy) by 4 then it is possible to remove zombies heads... and if enough come to you then by round 12 that's over 10,000 points from zombies without wasting good OR bad guns' ammo. The best Der Riese strategy that has gotten me to 32 is you go start at the main frame and travel through the trench gun room blasting and tossing grenades behind you. Head up the stairs and blast down at the zombies until almost overwhelmed or they are coming from the other side of the bridge. Then drop into the big open area and flip switch (depends on how many zombies there are). Go to teleporter C and shoot till they are on the stairs no closer,no farther. When you get back to the main frame DO NOT GO BACK THROUGH TRENCH ROOM and IGNORE the perk. Got to the teleporter closest to the Type 100. Make another stand here. And then teleport. Now it is safe to go back to the trench room this time though don't go all the way to C because zombies have already spawned there and it is possible to get congested on the stairs. Go to the telepoter that is closest to Mp40. and MAKE CRIPPLES. Now teleport and just alternate between the Type 100 TELE and Trench TELE until it is only you and some cripples.... This works best with two people although if you decided on 3 or 4 try to be careful and communicate even if you have to call the person's home phone number (I did this once XD)- I take xXBattlesXx and Skater2theCore take credit for discovering this Split-Screen