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User Info: the_one_paladin

the_one_paladin
10 years ago#1
I remember playing the old Dragon Warrior IV on NES, and I was wondering how this version compares with the original? From the screenshots I've seen, its obviously better graphic wise.

User Info: obishawn

obishawn
10 years ago#2
It is easier and you can have full control over your party or set up their AI. And if I'm not mistaken the NES version didn't have the sixth chapter.
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User Info: ignasia7

ignasia7
10 years ago#3
Right, no sixth chapter in the original., the game is somewhat easier as you get more exp from some mobs, you get typically higher mob counts per battle, thusly more exp per encounter. The bag allows for stacking of multiple items, which means you can really take advantage of Torneko in this version. Also gold was expanded from 99,999 to 999,999. There is a pioneer town where you can recruit people to join, and each iteration has new items to find (including mini-medals). There is new dialogue from some npcs, a few towns were slightly changed in appearance and layout. Endor's hidden doorway to get to the stairs that leads to a jump to the not-so-secret armor shop has been changed. There are a lot more items to find in every town (including seeds).

The AI patterns were changed for each character. Torneko is slightly more predictable, but just as useful. Kiryl is infinitely more useful for a first fight against a boss, assuming you have him on AI mode.

The world map has shrunken by roughly 30%, so it takes less time to walk from place to place. Nearly every dungeon has had a facelift, some losing anywhere from 10-30% of their original size. Most bosses were upgraded in damage, defense, and skill damage, some in HP.

Some boss attack patterns have been changed, only slightly. The story was slightly warped for the better. The casino prizes are different, and the method for obtaining some gear has changed, like Liquid Metal Shield and Helm. Most names were changed. The script has dialects that differ depending on where you are, most of them are very well done, some are so-so, but it adds more flavour.

Some effects of certain spells were changed. The spell names were changed to the DQ8 style, and while you might have an issue with this (like I did), it's not so bad, and in some respects makes more sense (some spells have really poor names for what they do, others make total sense..). Some new weapons and armor were added (not even a handful). Some accessory stats were changed.

Player stats are slightly different. Instead of Agi determining defense, you have a Resilience stat. Nara has a HUGE upgrade in HP/MP. Alena takes a massive hit to HP, Ragnar is about the same as he ever was. The hero isn't too much different. Stats are still random, but they are less wild and erratic. +/-1/2/3 difference between levels, rather than in the NES where you could get +1, or +0 for some levels in a key stat, then suddenly get 10 levels of +12-20.

Spell resistances have changed. Enemies are more susceptable to status effects. Sap and Defense, and their second tiers have been changed slightly in how much they affect defense. Breath attacks do more damage to you. Some gear have a few changes to effects/stats, like Glombolero. Seeds have a slightly change in effect.

There are a few other changes, like a few new skills, a single spell was removed (transform), Brey is more useful than ever before...Nara is also more useful than ever before....um, Taloon seems to steal more often, and seems to have a higher success chance. The music was totally updated, sounds fantastic (especially on headphones or plugging into good speakers).

Let's see, the price for resurrection changed. The Japanese version has party chat, which we did not get, but hopefully someone will release a patch for the US version with all of it translated.

Um...ya, there are more subtle changes here and there. OH right, the relationships between the characters has changed only somewhat. There is less focus on Kiryl's lust for Alena for one....I think my brain is wracked enough.

Just play it for god's sake! You will love it. Though some manner of the original charm is gone, the experience is very new and very cool.

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obishawn
10 years ago#4
Damn, Iggy. You're a walking DQ wiki. This deserves a sticky. And I so didnt' mean for that to rhyme.
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User Info: ignasia7

ignasia7
10 years ago#5
I love my DQ...though I'm still embarrassed about my comment over religious symbols in NES DQ's...I can't believe i would forget something like that.
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User Info: the_one_paladin

the_one_paladin
10 years ago#6
Thanks for the information. I've seen this game twice in used game stores for 20 bucks, so I was wondering if it was worth picking up.

User Info: obishawn

obishawn
10 years ago#7
GameStop has used copies for $14.99 and this version is definitely worth picking up. $15 is a steal.
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User Info: Defensor24

Defensor24
10 years ago#8
Yeah Ignasia7 has it right 100%. The only thing I have to add that there is a bug/glitch in chapter 3 that was not in the original nes version.

If someone sells you a cautery sword/sword of malice and then someone sells you another cautery sword/sword of malice in the nes version you would have 2 in stock and could safely sell one. However, in this version selling one will completely deplete your stock. This is not true for the other two non-stocked items hunters bow/boomerang and chain sickle.

Also in Chapter 3 you sometimes can not dissuade customers from purchasing an item now. No matter how many times you tell them they can not buy that cautery sword.sword of malice they will insist......endlessly. Which especially sucks when considering the above bug/glitch.

They were the only negatives I saw throughout the whole game though. Everything else was A++ better than the original and that is coming from someone with a huge love for the old dragon warrior 4.

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atmasabr
10 years ago#9
Since we're mentioning mechanics, one big difference is that the duration of a lot of status spells is no longer for the rest of the battle.

Overall, this makes the game... easier!
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