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User Info: noodalls

noodalls
10 years ago#21
So anyone, I uploaded some videos from Tekken 3! showing that there is a requirement there that df and 2 are pressed on the same frame. I checked through the Jpn mooks i have as well, no mention of 2 or 3 frames that I've found yet.

I think it's just a myth. But I'm curious to know the source of it. Could have been one of my translations from years ago for all I remember.
Christie, Astaroth, Lei Fei.

User Info: Calz900

Calz900
10 years ago#22
Maybe people just got mixed up, like I did, and then they passed on the "right" info to another, and it just started from there...?
The flatter her chest, the closer I am to her heart...
PSN: Calz696 T6 Main: Asuka

User Info: Spoofer

Spoofer
10 years ago#23
Hei's EWGF in Tekken Tag was definitely considered harder to perform than Jin's at the time. There's got to be something in the inputs that reflects that. People assumed it had to do with the timing of d/f and 2, I guess.
Because... because I've got spikes.
Because I go between the zones, even when I'm not supposed to.

User Info: noodalls

noodalls
10 years ago#24
T3 Jin Slowest EWGF
11 21 31 31

T3 Jin Slowest WGF
11 21 31 50

TTT Hei Slowest EWGF
4 21 31 31

TTT Hei Slowest WGF
4 21 31 51

TTT Jin Slowest EWGF
11 21 31 31

TTT Jin Slowest WGF
11 21 31 50

First digit is for release F direction, second digit is for pressing D, third digit is for moving to DF and forth digit is for pressing two.

Can put videos of all the above up at some point.
Christie, Astaroth, Lei Fei.

User Info: Spoofer

Spoofer
10 years ago#25
So the comparative difficulty would come from holding F too long then? That would explain why people said he couldn't naturally DEWGF.

So based on your testing from the first posts, they're identical now?
Because... because I've got spikes.
Because I go between the zones, even when I'm not supposed to.

User Info: noodalls

noodalls
10 years ago#26
T6 DJ Slowest EWGF
11 21 31 31

T6 DJ Slowest WGF
11 21 31 50

T6 Hei Slowest EWGF
11 21 31 31

T6 Hei Slowest WGF
11 21 31 51

T6 Kaz Slowest EWGF
11 21 31 31

T6 Kaz Slowest WGF
11 21 31 50

T6 Kaz Slowest EWGF
11 21 31 31

T6 Jin Slowest WHF
11 21 31 50

T6 Jin Slowest EWHF
11 21 31 31

T6 Jin Slowest CD+1
11 21 31 50

T6 Jin Slowest ECD+1
11 21 31 31

Seems like they're pretty much all the same now.
Christie, Astaroth, Lei Fei.

User Info: noodalls

noodalls
10 years ago#27
Kaz Slowest MSEWGF
11 25 25

kaz Slowest MSWGF
11 25 45
Christie, Astaroth, Lei Fei.

User Info: Spoofer

Spoofer
10 years ago#28
Nice. :}

Thanks again for all the testing.
Because... because I've got spikes.
Because I go between the zones, even when I'm not supposed to.

User Info: noodalls

noodalls
10 years ago#29
Also, some input testing for fastest EWGF using DJ.

[URL=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AblDPK6QPUs]f,N,d,df+2[/URL] EWGF

[URL=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_8QHXsow88M]F,d,df+2[/URL] df+2

[URL=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vRPZqh3Wyl4]f,d,df+2[/URL] df+2

[URL=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6P1DmhbAHOg]f,d,DF+2[/URL] df+2

[URL=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7dqbveJ2a1Q]f,D,df+2[/URL] EWGF!

Can't hit it faster than 4F of input from what I've tested, I have one more thing left.
Christie, Astaroth, Lei Fei.

User Info: noodalls

noodalls
10 years ago#30
Tested using f for half a frame. The results was what I expected.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_dg6vNu7ADI

http://img121.imageshack.us/img121/4544/tekken630.png

50% of the time the f registers, the other 50% is doesn't. Still results in df+2.


One EWGF came out once (in about 100 tries) but I suspect this was a typo.
Christie, Astaroth, Lei Fei.
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