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JohnJSal 1 year ago#1
So I finally reached the end of the game, and it just seemed right to me to take the middle path, siding with neither extreme, so I did that. It felt weird to kill Rhobar, but oh well. As for Zuben, no way was I going to try to get 75 rep just to go see him, so I dropped down into the throne room from the mountains, attacked the room, and killed him! It was actually kind of fun to figure out a way to do that.

But as for the very end.....ugh.....as if Nordmar didn't have enough escorting going on already, Xardas leads you all the way from his tower to the rock portal near Geldern! It must have taken at least 15-20 minutes just to follow him there! That was pretty bad.

It also felt very abrupt, so I think I'm going to reload a save right before I destroyed the artifacts and side with Innos. That seems more like what I've been working toward anyway, since it helps the rebels and involves liberating Myrtana. (Not exactly looking forward to freeing every city though....I may not get around to all that!) But I can *finally* get regeneration!!! Woo!! :)
MadJak91 1 year ago#2
Wow! That is a pretty cool sounding assassination! I have to try that one day! I usually go for the typical anime assassin so I start running with my weapon drawn, ignoring the guards, I storm inside the throne room, jump, and slash at Zuben thinking I pierced him and the throne!

...okay.

Anyway. Fun fact is that if you get the quest to kill him from Beliar then the guards will not interfere provided you can legitimately enter Ishtar. Once you kill him, you are the leader of the Hashishin but it does nothing else.

There two ways to look at this:

INNOS
The hero is implied to be his champion since Gothic 1 with the Sleeper being Beliar's champion and then Xardas but with his own plans. This all is sort of dropped since there is no real story in Gothic 3. But even Rhobar believes so (the reason why he got you thrown inside the barrier) and it plays well with the usual good guy path. It is the sort of Light Side ending.

XARDAS
Or sometimes called Adanos' path. Eff both gods. This is also the path the terrible sequel goes with as canon and then switches to Innos (sort of) and leads to Arcania.
This one makes sense for those who see the hero as his own person. Ultimately, he never actually agreed to be the champion of Innos. He only did what was right for all because the dragons and stuff would completely destroy everything. Same with the Sleeper. Xardas as well always seemed as the one who is a step ahead in the conflict when it comes to choices. And they are good buddies!
Interestingly enough, some German releases of Risen came with a comic that shows two guys: The Nameless One and The Magician. They are not fully shown but still bear a striking resemblance to the hero and Xardas. They discuss banishing the gods and then they open a door in a cliff and banish the gods before disappearing inside. That is a sort of extra backstory to Risen, a world where the gods were banished a long time ago.
Probably nothing more than an Easter egg and any connections were denied but well. You know how creators can be! Who knows!
JohnJSal 1 year ago#3
That's pretty cool about Risen. I played Risen (and loved it!) quite a while ago, so I don't remember much about it except of course it's striking resemblance to Gothic! I also played Arcania a while back, way before I played Gothic 3, obviously, so I didn't even realize it continued from Gothic 3's ending.

I actually enjoyed Arcania, but only for what it was, because I went in knowing it was nothing like the Gothic games. That helped a lot!

Anyway, I want to personally thank you for all the help you have provided during my Gothic 3 experience! It was invaluable to have someone to turn to when I was stuck or confused, and your answers went above and beyond what I ever expected! Thank you!
MadJak91 1 year ago#4
While I check here from time to time, I most certainly did not expect actual activity of this sort. I am glad I could help and it is good that you enjoyed the game! It is pretty nice when that happens so thanks as well!

Perhaps we shall meet on some other game board someday!
JohnJSal 1 year ago#5
MadJak91 posted...
While I check here from time to time, I most certainly did not expect actual activity of this sort. I am glad I could help and it is good that you enjoyed the game! It is pretty nice when that happens so thanks as well!

Perhaps we shall meet on some other game board someday!

I hope so! I still have Risen 2 and 3 to play, so maybe one day.........
MadJak91 1 year ago#6
I did not like RIsen 3 very much but with Risen 2 I can help! In some ways it is even simpler than Gothic 3. Just do yourself a favor and play the PC version.
JohnJSal 1 year ago#7
PC is pretty much all I play, except my 3DS. I'm not sure I'm crazy about the pirate theme of Risen 2, but hopefully it's good anyway.
MadJak91 1 year ago#8
I would say average to bad (depending on who is playing it) but I am sure some people enjoyed it as well.
You will actually see really quick. Once you get to the first island you will quickly discover if it is to your liking because you will not be doing much else on other islands...

But I am going off-topic. We shall see!
JohnJSal 1 year ago#9
Ha ha, yes, maybe I'll try it soon, but after 80+ hours with Gothic 3, I think my next game will be something quicker! ;-)
TazmanianD 1 year ago#10
My biggest complaint about Risen 2 is that that magic side of things kinda sucks with the semi-lame voodoo magic you have to use. But it's still got the beauty and immersiveness that Piranha Bytes is so good at putting into their games. I play all the Gothic and Risen games as a mage even though they're not all the most mage friendly and R2 is definitely the least mage friendly. It's part of the reason I like G3 because it is mage friendly. R3 is also pretty mage friendly too.
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