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User Info: Terotrous

Terotrous
1 month ago#11
Low Recommendation (0-39%) (Sq-Z)

Syvalion - 33% (3)
T2: The Arcade Game - 20% (5)
Taz-Mania - 36% (7)
Tecmo Secret of the Stars - 25% (6)
Tekkaman Blade - 13% (4)
Terminator, The - 0% (4)
Terminator 2: Judgment Day - 10% (5)
Test Drive 2: The Duel - 33% (3)
Tetris 2 - 38% (4)
Tetsuwan Atom - 0% (1)
Thunder Spirits - 33% (6)
Time Cop - 20% (5)
Time Slip - 30% (5)
Time Trax - 30% (5)
Tintin in Tibet - 0% (6)
Tintin: Prisoners of the Sun - 0% (3)
Tom & Jerry - 0% (4)
Toys - 0% (5)
Traverse: Starlight & Prairie - 0% (1)
Troy Aikman NFL Football - 0% (4)
Tsuri Tarou - 0% (1)
UFO Kamen Yakisoban - 0% (1)
Ultima: Ruins of Virtue 2 - 0% (4)
Ultima: The Black Gate - 25% (6)
Ultima: The Savage Empire - 25% (2)
Ultimate Fighter - 0% (2)
Ultraman - 13% (8)
Untouchables, The - 0% (1)
Ushio to Tora - 25% (2)
Utopia - 8% (3)
Vortex - 33% (3)
Vs Collection - 0% (1)
Waku Waku Ski Wonder Spur - 0% (2)
War 3010 - 0% (3)
Warlock - 8% (6)
Warpspeed - 0% (4)
Waterworld - 38% (4)
Wayne's World - 4% (12)
We're Back - 0% (5)
Whizz - 13% (4)
Wicked 18 - 17% (3)
Wild Snake - 33% (3)
Wings 2: Aces High - 38% (4)
Winter Olympic Games: Lillehammer '94 - 0% (3)
Wizardry 1-3 - 0% (2)
Wizardry 5 - 33% (3)
Wizardry 6 - 25% (2)
Wolfchild - 25% (6)
Wolverine: Adamantium Rage - 13% (4)
World Masters Golf - 25% (2)
Wrecking Crew 98 - 0% (1)
WWF Super Wrestlemania - 36% (7)
WWF Wrestlemania the Arcade Game - 25% (4)
X-Kaliber 2097 - 33% (6)
X Zone - 0% (2)
Yuu Yuu Hakusho: Tokubetsu Hen - 33% (3)
Zen-Nippon GT Senshuken - 25% (2)
Zool - 25% (8)
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KFHEWUI
1 month ago#12
Urban Strike - G
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User Info: uffbulle

uffbulle
1 month ago#13
Urban Strike - A
Wagan Paradise - A

It's Wagyan btw.
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User Info: Terotrous

Terotrous
1 month ago#14
uffbulle posted...
It's Wagyan btw.

The official romanization is Wagan, as seen in various adverts and in Project X Zone 2. Most websites (ie, Wikipedia, Namco wiki) use that spelling.
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uffbulle
1 month ago#15
Changing my Urban Strike vote to B.
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User Info: Terotrous

Terotrous
1 month ago#16
ESPN Baseball Tonight - G
Hurricanes - A
Shin Megami Tensei If - A
Urban Strike - A
Wagan Paradise - G
Wedding Peach - B

I was curious to see how ESPN Baseball tonight compared to the Genesis version, because I rated that one quite highly, and the answer is that it's actually almost completely identical, save for some slightly changed sound effects. I feel like the Genesis version does sound a little better, but it's so close that it doesn't really matter. Compared to 3D Baseball, which we reviewed for PS1 this week, this game is clearly not quite as good (in particular, it's much harder to field accurately from this viewpoint), but this is still a really good-looking game for a 16-bit console.

Hurricanes is another soccer-themed platformer so obviously there will be comparisons to Marko's Magic Football. Of the two games, Hurricanes is the vastly simpler one, the ball handling here is so basic that it actually feels more like a standard platformer with the one caveat that you can break your weapon if it hits something sharp and not be able to use it for a little while. The game is mostly functional but I find its physics slightly annoying, particularly how you hang in the air for a moment after running off a ledge, which feels very unintuitive, particularly because it does not allow any kind of midair jump ala DKC. Graphics are surprisingly good though.

Shin Megami Tensei If is an interesting but flawed game. Mechanically, it's somewhat similar to Shin Megami Tensei 1 and 2, featuring a similar first-person viewpoint and demon summoning system, though it features a significant new mechanic in the guardian system. When you die, instead of it being game over, you'll be saved by a guardian, who will return you to the start of the current dungeon and also give you some stat bonuses and possibly spells and abilities. They remain with you until you die again, at which point you get a new one, basically acting like a pseudo-Persona, albeit one you have a lot less control over. The game's story is also set in a high school that has been onset by demons, and you'll travel into various dungeons representing humanity's sins, similarly to Shin Megami Tensei Strange Journey. There are also multiple playable characters to choose from, each of whom has their own storyline, somewhat akin to games like Devil Survivor. These concepts are cool, but the part I don't care for is the return of demon conversations and summoning. As in previous games, you have to talk to demons to convince them to join, but for some reason they've drastically increased the complexity of demon conversations, with each now having potentially dozens of branches, only one or two of which might lead to anything useful, even when you give a demon items 9 times out of 10 they'll just run away, which is super frustrating. After failing to recruit even a single demon the first 30 times or so I started using save states to save scum every possible option, and even then in many cases there isn't any option that works. This quickly led me to largely want to ignore demon conversations entirely and you can get away with it to some degree, but for boss fights the extra firepower is almost mandatory, which creates an annoying grinding part before boss fights where you have to try to grab a few powerful demons (demons don't level, so you might as well just catch fresh ones when you need them). Clearly, the better option would have been for them to let you get a party made up exclusively of human characters and just use their guardians, but at that point obviously the game just becomes Persona. It's an interesting stepping stone on the path to greater things, but I don't think this one holds up quite as well as the others on SNES.
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User Info: Terotrous

Terotrous
1 month ago#17
You can basically copy-paste my thoughts from the previous Strike games for Urban Strike, it's a not-so-great port of a good game on Genesis. The Strike games, while all fairly similar to each, have good gameplay and a very solid UI. On SNES, the resolution is lower so they appear stretched, which both hinders the visuals and also hurts the draw distance, which is pretty important in this game. Of the three, I feel Urban Strike is the most interesting because the setting is more unique, tons of war games take place in the middle east, not many take place on home soil. So if you're going to get one on SNES, I'd probably pick this one, but it's really best to go for the Genesis version.

I mentioned before that I was hoping Wagan Paradise was a little easier to play without Japanese knowledge, and it is! Somewhat. The core concept of the game still remains from the previous titles, which is that it's a weird mashup of a platformer and a minigame collection, where you'll do some platforming stages and then have to play a minigame, but far fewer of them are word games this time, and either my hiragana is getting better or the word games that do exist aren't as hard. Moreover, the platforming part now looks and plays vastly better, being quite gorgeous to look at, and there's a 2 Player mode where you just play the minigames. Apart from the very first game, you get to choose what game to play, so if you get that minigame where you have to unscramble a Japanese word to match a picture (this is super hard if you don't know Japanese), you can just reset until you don't, then just choose other games, so it's still fairly playable. It's still a really weird game, but instead of just feeling opaque you can now see that it's kind of cute and charming.

Wedding Peach is another minigame collection, but it's an extremely crappy one. There aren't many minigames, and they are all terrible, near universally featuring sluggish, terrible controls, and being very reliant on sheer luck. Also, the translation is utter garbage, being only partially complete and even the part they finished isn't very good. If you somehow want to subject yourself to this, use the guide on Gamefaqs, which does a far better job of explaining it, or alternatively, play absolutely any other minigame collection instead as this is probably the worst one ever.
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User Info: SBNetopir

SBNetopir
1 month ago#18
Just here to give quick G's to Urban Strike and SMT if...

Both are borderline A's, but I've decided I had enough fun with them to roll over to G.

Terotrous posted...
uffbulle posted...
It's Wagyan btw.

The official romanization is Wagan, as seen in various adverts and in Project X Zone 2. Most websites (ie, Wikipedia, Namco wiki) use that spelling.


Romanization is often a point of contention; I remember the Street Fighter EX games being fairly inconsistent about it with their move lists. Looking at this title screen, I'd probably go with uffbulle and the Wagyan variant:

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/iRWBIBCGwLc/hqdefault.jpg

However, if Wikipedia is to be believed, "The player character, Wagan, has the ability to temporarily stun his enemies with sound waves shaped like the noises "Wah" (ワッ) and "Gah" (ギャー Gyā)"

Gyā in this context is probably not meant as a literal pronunciation, but rather an approximation of the uttered sound, sort of in between a clean ga and gyaa; a soft ga, most likely. Therefore, I'd probably imagine that Wagan would be more correct and the reason why they went with it as the official romanization.
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User Info: Terotrous

Terotrous
1 month ago#19
New games up tomorrow.
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