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User Info: SilentHawk29

SilentHawk29
4 weeks ago#41
lightningbugx posted...
Rexdragon125 posted...
lightningbugx posted...
SilentHawk29 posted...
HeliosMagi posted...
The CPU and GPU are still soldiered into the board. If you wanna upgrade either you gotta buy a whole new laptop.

Uh, this hasn't been true for over a decade.


Interesting theory you have there. Mind if I ask you to prove it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nErozzcwKs8

This was my gaming laptop in 2009, you could take out the CPU and GPU


https://youtu.be/NKXYw-SBHcU?t=165

Most modern laptops of the last decade and further have the CPU and GPU soldered to the board. It is extremely rare to have a modern laptop motherboard with a socket for the CPU and some peripheral port for the GPU.

Also, my laptop bag runs around 30+ lbs. It carries more than just the laptop, but also a core rulebook (either Pathfinder or Starfinder currently), a few sets of dice, a variety of cables, and sometimes a mobile printer.

Keyword you're missing is "gaming."
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thegreatsquare
4 weeks ago#42
SilentHawk29 posted...
HeliosMagi posted...
The CPU and GPU are still soldiered into the board. If you wanna upgrade either you gotta buy a whole new laptop.

Uh, this hasn't been true for over a decade.

Yeah, but you can't rely on that even if they guarantee it ...well, if it's MSI.

As for the need to upgrade, I think the possibility of gaming laptops that can run a console's port offerings for the console's life is more or less a permanent thing for resolutions up to 1080p.

I also think BGA [soldered] should have warranties of at least 3 or 4 years.
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NewportBox100s
4 weeks ago#43
DarkZV2Beta posted...
haven't seen this guy trollin in ages.

I'm not trolling. Tf
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lightningbugx
4 weeks ago#44
SilentHawk29 posted...

Keyword you're missing is "gaming."


I am not missing any keywords. The logistics of selling laptops favors soldering the chips to the board. It is extremely rare to find modern laptops that involve sockets and slots for that reason.
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User Info: SilentHawk29

SilentHawk29
4 weeks ago#46
lightningbugx posted...
SilentHawk29 posted...

Keyword you're missing is "gaming."


I am not missing any keywords. The logistics of selling laptops favors soldering the chips to the board. It is extremely rare to find modern laptops that involve sockets and slots for that reason.

It is not extremely rare. Clevo, MSI, ASUS, and Dell (Alienware) all have socketed CPUs and slotted GPUs.
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NewportBox100s
4 weeks ago#47
I want that Acer Predator Helios 300 badly!
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lightningbugx
3 weeks ago#48
SilentHawk29 posted...
lightningbugx posted...
SilentHawk29 posted...

Keyword you're missing is "gaming."


I am not missing any keywords. The logistics of selling laptops favors soldering the chips to the board. It is extremely rare to find modern laptops that involve sockets and slots for that reason.

It is not extremely rare. Clevo, MSI, ASUS, and Dell (Alienware) all have socketed CPUs and slotted GPUs.


https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=303166.0

Myth debunked. MSI specifically says the CPUs are soldered.

For the most part, the CPUs are soldered to the mainboard in any modern laptop, regular or gaming. The reason is due to manufacturers and retailers being stuck with hundreds of mobility CPUs that are never sold because there is practically no market for upgrading them. Any sold are sold at a loss to the vendor. Therefore, they save time and money and make the mainboards with the CPU soldered straight to the board, able to sell a fully functional laptop. This also gives more room for the heatsink.

I did find the data that MSI does use MXM cards for some of their models, but I also found that these are only upgradeable to the series. You can only upgrade a GTX 900 series to another GTX 900 series. The GTX 900 series to GTX 10 series upgrade is not supported for a wide variety of hardware compatibility reasons, but you could try it. Although if I dig any further, I will find the thinner models have the GPUs built onto the mainboard, much like my Dell gaming laptop which is a 2017 model.
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User Info: SilentHawk29

SilentHawk29
3 weeks ago#49
lightningbugx posted...
The GTX 900 series to GTX 10 series upgrade is not supported for a wide variety of hardware compatibility reasons, but you could try it.

All it takes is a modded BIOS to get those to work. I upgraded my Sager from an AMD 7970 to a GTX 970. The GPU that it was supposed to be compatible with was 670 or 680.

As for the CPU, some may solder them, others do not. However, this does not change the fact that it's much cheaper to buy a laptop with the parts you want rather than upgrade it yourself. My 970m, for example, was $600. The desktop card could be found for about half the cost. It is a good thing to do though if everything else is good on the laptop, but your performance parts are a bit dated. It's cheaper to just buy a card than an entirely new laptop a few years down the line.
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