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User Info: Orestes417

Orestes417
2 months ago#51
Born Lucky posted...
You would have to be stupid to want something like that.


Stupid or manipulated into outrage by the very corporations it benefited riding a wave of panic to ensure no one actually paid attention to the details. Why does that sound familiar? But hey, a massive boilerplate bill has to be much more effective than targeted regulation right? That way no corner cases can accidentally get by until they're dealt with.
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User Info: Sub Tank

Sub Tank
2 months ago#52
Born Lucky posted...
Obama's "net neutrality" bill was a 350 page monstrosity that gave the government complete control over the internet.

It's basically pick your poison, although net neutrality might be slightly more tolerable than the alternative. It's still not the same wild west internet that we had in the past.

Honestly, the best case scenario is if someone like Elon Musk launches a huge satellite array into orbit that becomes the Internet 2.0.
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User Info: Orestes417

Orestes417
2 months ago#53
Sub Tank posted...
Born Lucky posted...
Obama's "net neutrality" bill was a 350 page monstrosity that gave the government complete control over the internet.

It's basically pick your poison, although net neutrality might be slightly more tolerable than the alternative. It's still not the same wild west internet that we had in the past.

Honestly, the best case scenario is if someone like Elon Musk launches a huge satellite array into orbit that becomes the Internet 2.0.


False dichotomy reinforced by a manufactured sense of urgency played for maximum effect by parties with horses in the race on all sides. Also, the Internet 2.0 already exists.
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User Info: hokkendire

hokkendire
2 months ago#54
The problem really isn't if there should be net neutrality or not. Either way the problem is the lack of competitors in most areas as these ISPs block anyone from going in and starting up or running any lines. If startups had this ability without the massive hassle it is now, the market would work itself out as people would go to the companies that have these anti consumer practices like throttling or bundles
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KillerTruffle
2 months ago#55
Gojak_v3 posted...
Things like this didn't happen in 2014 and before.

https://www.cnet.com/news/verizon-vs-netflix-whats-this-really-about/

Verizon vs. Netflix. Verizon held a link connection between Netflix' network and their own hostage unless Netflix paid them more, even though it could have been resolved by something like 6 feet of cable for a new connection between two central routers that were in the same housing. Netflix even offered to provide the cable and make the connection, but Verizon refused.

Didn't happen in 2014 and before? ¬_¬
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User Info: pyromania86

pyromania86
2 months ago#56
Monopoman posted...
Just because they didn't do the things people fear on day one doesn't mean that it won't happen. A gradual change is much easier to get away with than a radical change in one day. Also sure some ISP's may not do a damn thing, it still doesn't mean we shouldn't have a bill in place to make sure they don't.

Really getting rid of net neutrality is as dumb as claiming that the power company could determine what we could and couldn't use with the power they provide us for a price. Sorry sir you can't use our power to light up that Christmas Tree you didn't pay for the holiday lightning package.

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User Info: Born Lucky

Born Lucky
2 months ago#58
How do you people support a 350 page government regulation bill that you've never read, just because it has the name "net neutrality"??

Seriously - do people even think anymore?
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User Info: Orestes417

Orestes417
2 months ago#59
hokkendire posted...
The problem really isn't if there should be net neutrality or not. Either way the problem is the lack of competitors in most areas as these ISPs block anyone from going in and starting up or running any lines. If startups had this ability without the massive hassle it is now, the market would work itself out as people would go to the companies that have these anti consumer practices like throttling or bundles


Somebody gets it.
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User Info: Retrowire

Retrowire
2 months ago#60
Gojak_v3 posted...
I never had to upgrade to use reddit. Stop the fear mongering. Yer literally trying to cook up the worst case scenario possible. That is fear mongering. You guys literally put forth s*** like having to spend $10 to access steam, $10 for youtube, $5 for reddit, etc. That is fear mongering.

Like I'm not even trying to say there would be no downside to it (there would be good and bad), just that people like you are way off in the deep end.

You put WAYYY too much faith in corporations having your best interests in mind. Haha!
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