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User Info: ClunkerSlim

ClunkerSlim
4 months ago#21
Voxwik posted...
Good lord there are ACTUALLY people so obsessed with defending Microsoft they would defend such a feature

I don’t think anyone is defending anything. We’re just saying that it’s weird to have so much s*** open when you close down that it’s negatively affecting your boot time. And it’s a minor annoyance that is easily solved by just clicking the little x in the corner of a window when you’re done.
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Voxwik
4 months ago#22
ClunkerSlim posted...
Voxwik posted...
Good lord there are ACTUALLY people so obsessed with defending Microsoft they would defend such a feature

I don’t think anyone is defending anything. We’re just saying that it’s weird to have so much s*** open when you close down that it’s negatively affecting your boot time. And it’s a minor annoyance that is easily solved by just clicking the little x in the corner of a window when you’re done.

You're being too egocentric (literally) about it. I'm not meaning to be insulting, it's just literally egocentric, as in only seeing the world through the lens of your own needs/situation. Some people work with 3+ monitors and dozens of programs. A simple option is a reasonable expectation.

Some people work with potentially over a dozen programs that may not all be opened up at once every time. It's not at all unreasonable to expect a toggle for this 'feature." A middle school student first being introduced to programming would know how. This is arrogant egocentric UI design.

User Info: sarevokmb

sarevokmb
4 months ago#23
ClunkerSlim posted...
sarevokmb posted...
ClunkerSlim posted...
monkmith posted...
didn't realize this was a thing since i always close everything before shutting down. common practice from years of lost data from improper shutdowns.

Yeah, really. I don’t think Microsoft is the problem here. You’ve got some poor computing habits bro.


It isn't like I'm yanking the power cord out of the wall every time I shut down. I am doing a regular shutdown, just without manually closing Chrome and a dozen other non-essential programs first. There is nothing wrong with this and 0% chance of data corruption or loss (and I really wouldn't give a **** if Chrome had data loss). Maybe back in the Windows 98/XP days, but nowadays Windows waits for those programs to fully exit out and then shuts down.

Yeah.... but still. It just feels icky. Just close the freaking window when you’re done. You’re not that guy who always kept like 50 porn tabs open, right? Just close your stuff as you’re done with it.

I’ve been annoyed by the new message of “closing open apps - Steam.” But I haven’t noticed any longer boot times. (Seriously though, the Steam message is starting to piss me off.)


Not usually porn, but right now I have the football game playing on one screen, a bunch of tabs on this screen with forums, and a bunch of work tabs open on another screen. Overall about 30 tabs open, some of which will come up with obnoxious popups asking me to confirm if I really want to close them when I try to exit Chrome.

Then I have Steam, which I had configured to start in offline mode on boot, but with the new Windows update, it starts wherever it was when I shut down, so I need to make sure to go offline in that before shutting down, or I'll get dozens of messages in that from people asking me to play PUBG when I just log on to get some work done.

I know it isn't the biggest problem in the world, but it literally now takes 10x more time to boot my PC and it demonstrates the terrible direction that Windows has been heading for a long time.

User Info: Voxwik

Voxwik
4 months ago#24
Perhaps you missed it twice so I'll keep it to the point.
http://www.winhelponline.com/blog/stop-auto-reopen-programs-restart-windows-10/

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sarevokmb
4 months ago#25
Voxwik posted...
sarevokmb posted...
monkmith posted...
sarevokmb posted...
ClunkerSlim posted...
monkmith posted...
didn't realize this was a thing since i always close everything before shutting down. common practice from years of lost data from improper shutdowns.

Yeah, really. I don’t think Microsoft is the problem here. You’ve got some poor computing habits bro.


It isn't like I'm yanking the power cord out of the wall every time I shut down. I am doing a regular shutdown, just without manually closing Chrome and a dozen other non-essential programs first. There is nothing wrong with this and 0% chance of data corruption or loss (and I really wouldn't give a **** if Chrome had data loss). Maybe back in the Windows 98/XP days, but nowadays Windows waits for those programs to fully exit out and then shuts down.

well ok its a stupid design choice on microsofts side but its one you can easily mitigate by closing programs you're not using. give it time and i'm sure someone will come up with some form of fix if you really cant be bothered to close programs.


That's what I'm hoping for. It is still early, so hopefully someone finds a fix. It seems like they just added it because Apple does it with the new OSX, and forgot that Windows already basically had this functionality with hibernation mode.

As I said:
Alt + F4 after hitting the desktop or make a shortcut to "shutdown.exe /s" It should be an option, but that is a workaround.


Thanks, man, I'll try that. I missed your original post.

User Info: Voxwik

Voxwik
4 months ago#26
You're welcome. I'm not sure why I reacted so strongly to the unhelpful posts. That's on me there by going off on a strange tangent.

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sarevokmb
4 months ago#27
Voxwik posted...
You're welcome. I'm not sure why I reacted so strongly to the unhelpful posts. That's on me there by going off on a strange tangent.


I definitely get the frustration, and I agree with your post 100%. It pisses me off when programmers take the control and options out of my hand because they have some absurd vision of a simplified OS. I hate the feeling that everything is moving towards a mobile phone operating system.

The worst part of this for me is that even Apple allows you to toggle this feature on OSX: https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT204005

User Info: ClunkerSlim

ClunkerSlim
4 months ago#28
Voxwik posted...
ClunkerSlim posted...
Voxwik posted...
Good lord there are ACTUALLY people so obsessed with defending Microsoft they would defend such a feature

I don’t think anyone is defending anything. We’re just saying that it’s weird to have so much s*** open when you close down that it’s negatively affecting your boot time. And it’s a minor annoyance that is easily solved by just clicking the little x in the corner of a window when you’re done.

You're being too egocentric (literally) about it. I'm not meaning to be insulting, it's just literally egocentric, as in only seeing the world through the lens of your own needs/situation. Some people work with 3+ monitors and dozens of programs. A simple option is a reasonable expectation.

Some people work with potentially over a dozen programs that may not all be opened up at once every time. It's not at all unreasonable to expect a toggle for this 'feature." A middle school student first being introduced to programming would know how. This is arrogant egocentric UI design.

Am I though? Because so far the only programs he’s mentioned are Crome and Steam. I’ll admit that the Steam thing is annoying. But Chrome? Just hit the “x.”

I do graphical design work and usually end up with a s*** ton of open programs during the day. But as I’m done with them I close them out individually. And honestly, that’s not a bad habit to get into. It’s probably going to save you more headaches then it causes.
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fallen_acolyte
4 months ago#29
My only issue is there's another feature you don't have the power to turn off
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Bleu_Skie
4 months ago#30
Takes a second to close stuff. This would be pretty far down the list of annoying w10 "features."
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