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User Info: MasteroftheArts

MasteroftheArts
4 months ago#31
When people say a game hasn't aged well, it's almost always just code for "my tastes have changed."
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Sailor_Razor
4 months ago#32
SinisterSlay posted...
But a game example. Digital controls. They didn't last long. And it's hard to go back to them. Analog is just better.


I'll argue that. Time and place. In 2D games where movement is completely stop and go (you're either moving or you're not, you can't push the stick slightly to walk, and all the way to run), then I would want a pad, not an analog stick.

Also the problem with Mario 64's camera is that in most areas, it'll get stuck on nothing. Sometimes it'll allow you to turn it in a complete circle, but in most areas there's just a weird chunk that it will refuse to pass through.

And yes, you can change to the Mario camera, but that tries to stick to your back when you're not in motion, making it awkward when you're trying to walk sideways.

User Info: Freelance_Wolf

Freelance_Wolf
4 months ago#33
Born Lucky posted...
I just take games for what they are. If they were good when they were released , they're probably good now.

For example - I 'm playing The Bard's Tale right now. I think it looks great.


Best reply in this thread. I play all sorts of old games today and they're just as good today as they were back then. Nothing really 'ages poorly' to me.

User Info: Bleu_Skie

Bleu_Skie
4 months ago#34
Games not aging well does happen, but the significance of it isn't that large. A good game won't become terrible over time, just not as good in comparison... like the difference between disgaea 1 and 5

Fun fact: I played some Everquest for the first time yesterday.
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KillerTruffle
4 months ago#35
Bleu_Skie posted...
Games not aging well does happen, but the significance of it isn't that large. A good game won't become terrible over time, just not as good in comparison... like the difference between disgaea 1 and 5

Fun fact: I played some Everquest for the first time yesterday.

Sure, but were you playing this:

https://i.imgur.com/1UX4eA1.jpg

Or this:

https://i.imgur.com/UWxEx3h.jpg

Everquest has had a whole hell of a lot of updates since it started, and I don't know how many people who have been exposed to WOW would be very OK going back to the original EQ... ;)
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User Info: arleas

arleas
4 months ago#36
jake-sf posted...
"Aging" is generally used to refer to one of two things:

-Graphics are too ugly I can't stand it aaaaaaaarrrrr

-Mechanics that aren't like today's mechanics, I can't stand it haaaaaarrr

The later I consider to be the stupidest use of the phrase.

Actually, I think the 2nd one is the one I'd most likely agree with. Old graphics are bad, but they rarely make me feel terrible when playing the game. I could go back and play an Atari 2600 game and not feel much bad about it as long as the game was well made.

Poor game mechanics/controls however can ruin a game for me... Though often there will be some kind of mod or fix that updates things.

The example I'd give in this instance is Doom. Does anyone out there like using the mouse to move? Like, not for aiming, for movement? I guess if you like picking up the mouse and re-centering it over and over and moving in short bursts between mouse re-centering moments...

Looking around the net people are saying that WASD wasn't even used until the Quake 2 days... so yeah, playing the original doom without WASD is weird and awkward and ruins the experience for me... The game itself is timeless though.
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GTL581
4 months ago#37
arleas posted...
The example I'd give in this instance is Doom. Does anyone out there like using the mouse to move? Like, not for aiming, for movement? I guess if you like picking up the mouse and re-centering it over and over and moving in short bursts between mouse re-centering moments...

Looking around the net people are saying that WASD wasn't even used until the Quake 2 days... so yeah, playing the original doom without WASD is weird and awkward and ruins the experience for me... The game itself is timeless though.

was mouse movement standard when the game came out? i played it using the arrow keys, right-control/shift, comma, period, and spacebar; i just assumed that was the original way the game was meant to be played (this was in 2010). to my understanding, quake originally controlled in a similar fashion.

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arleas
4 months ago#38
GTL581 posted...
was mouse movement standard when the game came out?


All I know is when I installed DOOM for the first time when it showed up on steam, moving the mouse moved me around the map instead of aiming... I thought it was weird. I didn't even think to try the cursor keys at the time.

I wound up installing ZDoom or GZDoom and that pretty much modernized the controls for me.

But it's not just doom... that's just the first example that came to mind. Quake 1 didn't have mouselook either unless you held down a button...I think that was easier to configure to more modern standards though.
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User Info: Bleu_Skie

Bleu_Skie
4 months ago#39
KillerTruffle posted...
Bleu_Skie posted...
Games not aging well does happen, but the significance of it isn't that large. A good game won't become terrible over time, just not as good in comparison... like the difference between disgaea 1 and 5

Fun fact: I played some Everquest for the first time yesterday.

Sure, but were you playing this:

https://i.imgur.com/1UX4eA1.jpg

Or this:

https://i.imgur.com/UWxEx3h.jpg

Everquest has had a whole hell of a lot of updates since it started, and I don't know how many people who have been exposed to WOW would be very OK going back to the original EQ... ;)

Holy s***, I had no idea :P I'm playing the first one and the graphics were in "rough but fine" territory. I did think some of the QoL features were a bit lacking, but no huge complaints. Now that I see its roots, it is more impressive that the game is still around. I honestly wouldn't mind trying the original. EQ came up when a friend was reminising about it on PS2 which led to the idea of "why not try it." ...so I did lol.

I have never played WoW, so that isnt a refrence point for me.

Thanks for sharing that picture tho. I'll link him this thread later and see what he says :)
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User Info: arleas

arleas
4 months ago#40
MasteroftheArts posted...
When people say a game hasn't aged well, it's almost always just code for "my tastes have changed."

It could also be code for "Things have gotten better and I didn't know how bad it was originally because there wasn't anything better to compare it to."

Like 2400 baud modems.... would you even think of doing anything on a 2400 baud modem these days? No, I'm not suggesting you browse Gamefaqs at 2400 bps, but just... I don't know... read plain text transmitted at 2400bps.... write an email or something.

The first online game I ever played was over a 2400 baud modem and it updated the playfield I think 1 time per second... Would I endure such a game nowadays? Probably not. I don't know if that's my tastes changing though.

I might want to fire up Modem Wars once for nostalgia and then maybe start a game vs the bots to see if I remember how to play, and then I'd probably quit out in less than 10 minutes and not play again.
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