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Gamesindustry.biz Sr. Editor quits Steam over Valve's inaction with hate speech
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DaedalusEx posted...Terantatek posted...I'm sorry, but a nazi community platform existing is more acceptable than people vocally being against that? Wtf is this 1936?
So you want censorship, making you just as bad in my books.
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I'm sorry, I'm all for freedom of speech (within reason), but that's just ludicrous. So somebody protesting a Nazi group that extols killing/making subservient any race besides the "pure aryan" is just as hateful and bigoted as them for wanting that crap removed? No, protesting/fighting bigotry/intolerance/small-mindedness is the opposite of hate and bigotry.
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You know, looking at steam's Subscriber agreement and online etiquette, they don't explicitly say "don't use racial slurs", though I thought they'd have that word-filtered into hearts like everything else stronger than the word "damn".
As a Steam subscriber you agree to abide by the following conduct rules.
Of course I'd think "not using racial slurs" falls under "common sense" and/or "basic etiquette".
Anyway, if the forums were full of 4chan rejects spamming the N word, it probably wouldn't hurt anything at all to have them all banned from ever using the forums again.
I don't agree with the developers of Firewatch trying to use DMCA to silence someone he doesn't agree with, EVEN Pewdiepie (who is obviously comfortable with spouting racial slurs), but those people responding with a forum full of racial slurs is a pretty stupid answer to that.
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If GameFAQs allowed these types of groups to post freely and openly -- e.g., a white supremacist gamers forum -- would you still participate here?
A private entity is responsible for what gets posted on its forums. Whatever they allow, they condone. I had been looking forward to making a Steam account when I can afford to upgrade my PC. Looks like I'll be sticking to Gog.com. Games don't mean more to me than my principles.
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There's a difference between protesting and censoring. Protest the killing or subjugation of non-aryan races, don't protest the freedom to express that concept.
The moment you assume the moral high ground, you submit yourself to bigotry. If you can't understand the concept of perspective, then, as a person, you aren't better than the racist nazi prick. You just have a different set perspective that you can't see past and aren't willing to accept fault with. When you go and take action similar to that of a nazi, censoring free speech and dissent of your views, and even physically abusing those that stand against you, you are no different from the nazis in germany during World War 2.
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The point is that they shouldn't exist in the first place. If Valve can't moderate their communities that they host through their service then they should just get rid of it. Its really not that hard.
Its not about wanting to censor people, its about people being too stupid to act like rational mature people. If they could just behave properly then it wouldn't be an issue, but they can't because they're idiots. That's why moderators and community managers exist. Just like the police exist because people are idiots and do stupid things.
Try spending some time on steam forums. Users posting hate speech and death threats to devs families isn't a rare occurrence.
Edavy89 posted...DaedalusEx posted...Terantatek posted...I'm sorry, but a nazi community platform existing is more acceptable than people vocally being against that? Wtf is this 1936?
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LOL.What a drama queen.The ego of this guy must be huge.He really thinks someone gives a s*** if he deletes his steam account.Ohh no what are we going to do.A useless journo deleted his valve account.I guess it's time to commit Sudoku.
Seriously.This guy is a clear example of how authoritarian can the SJWS be.They want to impose their views on everything and if you don't agree with them.They accuse you of being a racist or worse.They are the modern day Inquisition.
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