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User Info: ZBug_

ZBug_
2 years ago#11
Voidgolem posted...
The amount of spin needed to write up a basic malware hack as "der gubmen is coming 4 joo" is mind boggling.

"They didn't have a warrant!"

You're downloading s*** off the internet. Permission is kinda given when you say "yes I'm sure"

This.
scoobydoobydont posted...
Fair, next.

Yep.
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User Info: megamanzero1000

megamanzero1000
2 years ago#12
UnderwaterAir posted...
Does your girlfriend send naked pictures to you from time to time to spice things up.
Guess what she uses to send the pictures.
Guess who can now go in and look at her pictures whenever they want.


What if I don't care that people see naked pictures of my GF?

User Info: Pokenub

Pokenub
2 years ago#13
megamanzero1000 posted...
UnderwaterAir posted...
Does your girlfriend send naked pictures to you from time to time to spice things up.
Guess what she uses to send the pictures.
Guess who can now go in and look at her pictures whenever they want.


What if I don't care that people see naked pictures of my GF?

So your hands without gloves on?
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User Info: Marikhen

Marikhen
2 years ago#14
scoobydoobydont posted...
Fair, next.


If remotely accessing an individual's PC to look through their personal files, shared and unshared, is fair, then why do law enforcement agencies need to demonstrate probable cause and obtain warrants before establishing a wire tap or searching your home?

From the other direction, what is the practical difference between a local police deputy crawling through your home office window (still leaving his feet outside of course) and rifling through your desk and remotely accessing a PC that is at least moderately secure before rifling through the files contained in it, and why is one fair while the other isn't?

Pokenub posted...
The chance of them actually doing it to you is so darn low that it really doesn't even matter.


As hardware and software become more powerful it's going to get easier to search more and more PCs for useful information, and the number of devices that can be searched is likely going to scale up far more quickly than the number of devices in use due to birth rates increasing more slowly than computing power.

In effect the chances of something like this happening to any given individual will only increase over time if there are no legal, moral, or PR reasons for law enforcement and government agencies to not do it.
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User Info: Voidgolem

Voidgolem
2 years ago#15
Marikhen posted...
If remotely accessing an individual's PC to look through their personal files, shared and unshared, is fair, then why do law enforcement agencies need to demonstrate probable cause and obtain warrants before establishing a wire tap or searching your home?

From the other direction, what is the practical difference between a local police deputy crawling through your home office window (still leaving his feet outside of course) and rifling through your desk and remotely accessing a PC that is at least moderately secure before rifling through the files contained in it, and why is one fair while the other isn't?


Wrong analogy.

This is the digital equivalent of going to a drug deal and finding out that the guy doing the selling was actually a cop.

Deserved, next.

Marikhen posted...

As hardware and software become more powerful it's going to get easier to search more and more PCs for useful information


and how many of the PCs are going to go download "TOTALLY_NOT_A_FEDERAL_SPY_WORM.EXE" off a child porn site?
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User Info: Garage_Man

Garage_Man
2 years ago#16
You know...It's really hard to choose a side. On one hand I value my privacy and believe it should be protected...but on the other hand due to this being about CP it's really hard to wanna fight you know?

There is a lot of f***ed up s*** that happens online and honestly I believe some of it should be policed and monitored.

User Info: Demon27248

Demon27248
2 years ago#17
Voidgolem posted...
Marikhen posted...
If remotely accessing an individual's PC to look through their personal files, shared and unshared, is fair, then why do law enforcement agencies need to demonstrate probable cause and obtain warrants before establishing a wire tap or searching your home?

From the other direction, what is the practical difference between a local police deputy crawling through your home office window (still leaving his feet outside of course) and rifling through your desk and remotely accessing a PC that is at least moderately secure before rifling through the files contained in it, and why is one fair while the other isn't?


Wrong analogy.

This is the digital equivalent of going to a drug deal and finding out that the guy doing the selling was actually a cop.

Deserved, next.



No, it's the equivalent of the police going to the dealer's house & searching it without a warrant because they think the person may have drugs there.

Completely illegal & unethical, next.
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User Info: Voidgolem

Voidgolem
2 years ago#18
Demon27248 posted...


No, it's the equivalent of the police going to the dealer's house & searching it without a warrant because they think the person may have drugs there.


Not in this case. You have to get the malware from -somewhere-.

or, to reiterate:

Voidgolem posted...

You're downloading s*** off the internet. Permission is kinda given when you say "yes I'm sure" (and if you aren't configured to get that prompt then you're an idiot and deserve what you get.)
http://i.imgur.com/ZNpLR0T.png

User Info: Demon27248

Demon27248
2 years ago#19
The people who downloaded the malware didn't say "yes I'm sure" to "would you like to allow the FBI to look through your computer with this piece of malware". The malware performed a function that the user did not intend to happen, outside of the normal operation of the computer. It adds a new, unwanted feature.

If you want to go down the analogy route again, that's like inviting an undercover police officer into your house for a cup of coffee & having them proceed to search it in secrecy & against your will.
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User Info: Voidgolem

Voidgolem
2 years ago#20
Demon27248 posted...
The people who downloaded the malware didn't say "yes I'm sure" to "would you like to allow the FBI to look through your computer with this piece of malware". The malware performed a function that the user did not intend to happen, outside of the normal operation of the computer. It adds a new, unwanted feature.

If you want to go down the analogy route again, that's like inviting an undercover police officer into your house for a cup of coffee & having them proceed to search it in secrecy & against your will.


...you missed the part where the malware came from a child porn site, I see.
http://i.imgur.com/ZNpLR0T.png
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