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GeneralKenobi85
2 years ago#21
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Okay actually finished reading Hellbound today.

You know I find it odd that Cain didn't really have any speaking roles after he and Matt finally decide to work together. He was such an important character, but he didn't say a damn thing in the final chapters.

I also don't really understand the logistics behind claiming a soul because it seemed like The Business Man had ample opportunities to take Matt's soul and he never did. Then again Matt couldn't die either, so maybe he couldn't? If that was the case what The Business Man even hoping to accomplish? There was literally nothing he could have done to stop Matt. And then he died from getting stabbed just like everything else in the story.

TGG pls

Overall, it was definitely a bit of a mess. Your NW stories and even ANDoH were far more coherent, but of course for those you had the benefit of working with existing material.

And you know I just remembered the other day that your most well-written story was probably A New Definition of Misery. Or at least it could have been. Actually kind of reminds me of Hellbound since that also had a character called Cain didn't it?
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TheGamerGod____
2 years ago#22
@GeneralKenobi85

there may have been a reason for Cain's silence towards the latter part of Hellbound but damn if I remember it

I may or may not be wrong on this because you know it's been a while and as I've repeatedly pointed out, my memory about the whole thing is fuzzy because I vomited a bunch of stuff about the world and etc that didn't even make it into Hellbound itself but

I think the idea was that the Business Man wanted to corrupt and essentially manipulate Matt/Cain into reviving the Dark One (?) or whatever. That's why he didn't actively hound/try to take Matt's soul (plus also he still technically never made good on his side of the deal), I think. Also his death in the mortal world as I think I noted was meaningless which caused Matt to just decide to enter Hell and etc. Matt's journey through Hell would have corrupted him even further and I was going to even have stuff like him encountering his father and his suicidal mother in Hell

it wasn't so much that I was working with existing material but

I think my NW stuff was a bit more structured because I outlined a bunch of stuff way ahead of time and ANDoH I always had an idea of what the Lone Wanderer was doing/going after. Hellbound, I knew how I wanted the story to start and end, and then essentially just threw a bunch of stuff out there to serve as the middle

I'm not sure if I'd A New Definition of Misery my most well-written story but it definitely was for the Fanfiction era. Definitely one of the more original fanfiction things I threw out there... it being like maybe 10% Fallout and 90% weird horror stuff. And yeah, the mansion prison or whatever it was was ran by two brothers. Victor and a huge brute guy who wore a mask named Cain.

but you know

Cain was straight up basically the guy from Texas Chainsaw Massacre

I was making that one so big that eventually I just said f*** it it's not even worth it and literally that's what made me quit and get off of the fallout fanfiction train

and then I threw out all of the stuff I wrote for it

but I think the whole thing was there was a Vault below the mansion place and Victor basically singlehandedly brought about the ruin of it to be able to go up to the surface, and Cain would eventually find this out, lose his goddamned marbles, kill Victor, and set the mansion on fire

oh yeah

the protagonist in the insane asylum story/Happy Place I straight up gave the name of the protagonist guy from ANDoM too
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GeneralKenobi85
2 years ago#23
Oh for some reason I assumed Patrick Bessan would be the main character of Happy Place since you mentioned very early in the book that he had been committed there. But I guess that wouldn't have made sense since he was just plain evil.

Am I correct in assuming the protagonist for Poisoned Skies would have been Zach Resuni? Pretty sure you had him shuffling off to Belltow last time he's seen in the book. Also TGG pls. What the hell kind of name is Plague? You really couldn't think of anything better?

Also mentioning someone in a topic they create is kind of redundant since you get a notification whenever someone posts. Especially when it's only the two of us posting in this one.
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TheGamerGod____
2 years ago#24
GeneralKenobi85 posted...
Oh for some reason I assumed Patrick Bessan would be the main character of Happy Place since you mentioned very early in the book that he had been committed there. But I guess that wouldn't have made sense since he was just plain evil.

Am I correct in assuming the protagonist for Poisoned Skies would have been Zach Resuni? Pretty sure you had him shuffling off to Belltow last time he's seen in the book. Also TGG pls. What the hell kind of name is Plague? You really couldn't think of anything better?

Also mentioning someone in a topic they create is kind of redundant since you get a notification whenever someone posts. Especially when it's only the two of us posting in this one.


Patrick Bessan I think gets released from Happy Place due to circumstances like right around the start of that novel, to the confusion of a bunch of the insane asylum's staff because the guy should not be getting released. But hey, Satan walks amongst us and there's secret illuminati worldwide satanist cults and etc. Patrick Bessan I think gets swapped out for the Happy Place protagonist actually, it was some weird deal between the Wicked Man and the Business Man I really don't remember too well. But basically the Wicked Man had some sort of bone to pick with the Happy Place protagonist

wait no

I think the Wicked Man was thinking of using him as a potential host sort of deal like between Matt and Cain

but stuff went horribly wrong in the insane asylum and Chair ended up basically severing the Wicked Man's tie to the world of humanity

although I don't remember how the Wicked Man ended up making it there for the apocalypse if that was the case

although maybe starting the apocalypse basically just opened the floodgates for everybody

I... believe so? Which one was Zach Resuni again? I threw out a couple of differently weirdly named characters out there in Hellbound, but I really only remember Patrick Bessan and like Kevin Urnan (the guy who became a Fallen thing and set Matt's house on fire at the very beginning). Poisoned Skies was like the least developed of all of the other Dark Four novels I was throwing around at the time, for the ones I had actually started writing. Also, I don't know why but I just really liked Plague for some reason despite being really... dumb/generic.

Eventually moved away from the purposely weird names (that I made up in my head) like Urnan, Bessan, Resuni, Benning, and etc

from the current story I'm kicking around: Caleb Weiss (protagonist 1), Matt Robinson (protagonist 2), Nathaniel Winfield (protagonist 3), Oliver Hargraves (secondary antagonist, but basically imagine the Business Man but originally human)

the two protagonists other than Matt are also from failed story ideas

apart from Winfield (which I'm not sure will even stay in because it's a secondary Hellbound reference that just made me laugh), those last names are way better than goddamned Urnan

also yeah that's a good point it is pretty redundant but @GeneralKenobi85
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GeneralKenobi85
2 years ago#25
Yeah those were some weird names you came up with. Zach was the dude who became a Fallen but still retained his consciousness/sentience.

You have to write Happy Place again though but include Chair Girl from Tokyo Gore Police since you have a guy named Chair already. Chairs for everyone.
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TheGamerGod____
2 years ago#26
GeneralKenobi85 posted...
Yeah those were some weird names you came up with. Zach was the dude who became a Fallen but still retained his consciousness/sentience.

You have to write Happy Place again though but include Chair Girl from Tokyo Gore Police since you have a guy named Chair already. Chairs for everyone.


Oh yeah. I don't think he was going to be the main guy but yeah he was probably going to have a part in the Plague novel as I'm pretty sure their thing was happening simultaneously to the apocalypse unlike with Happy Place which was a couple of years before

I never watched Tokyo Gore Police after you guys didn't show up when I was going to stream it
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GeneralKenobi85
2 years ago#27
Then clearly you have to attempt to stream it again.

@TheGamerGod____ pls
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GeneralKenobi85
2 years ago#28
On an unrelated note, remember Ben's Reign, TGG? Since that died before it even began decided to share all the ideas I came up with. And you're probably the only one interested.

http://pastebin.com/ef5XmpdE

I went a little overboard with some of those, but I think it could have been fun. Shame NW is dead.
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GeneralKenobi85
2 years ago#29
@TheGamerGod____ pls
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TheGamerGod____
2 years ago#30
GeneralKenobi85 posted...
On an unrelated note, remember Ben's Reign, TGG? Since that died before it even began decided to share all the ideas I came up with. And you're probably the only one interested.

http://pastebin.com/ef5XmpdE

I went a little overboard with some of those, but I think it could have been fun. Shame NW is dead.


@GeneralKenobi85

You definitely put way more effort into designing a "Ben's World" beforehand than I did, that's for sure. Nobi pls. I still would have preferred you try and do an Paper Scrolls/Paper Fallout spin-off thing instead, but the Ben stuff is both easier to do and also you have way more freedom since basically you can throw anything in there from games, movies, NW, and etc

Nobi revive NW pls

and also oh boy

currently writing an in-depth murder scene for Matt Robinson 2.0 and it is way more... realistic/disturbing than the overly done/cartoony one in Hellbound

Hellbound: "I'm a masked guy and I'm going to execute your daughter point blank and gonna make you watch for no reason other than dramatic and cartoon violence and also because EVILLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL and also Satan told me to"
Three Sinners: "I'm sort of a mentally unstable guy and I'm gonna do these murders while you're away and slink off into the darkness by the time leaving you only with the aftermath"
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