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User Info: Blue_Dream87

Blue_Dream87
4 years ago#1
Seems most backgrounds cater to either melee or magic/tech, not a lot in between.
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User Info: the_dracolich

the_dracolich
4 years ago#2
Most backgrounds are there only for roleplaying purposes. Most of them are either a rip-off or provide only an insignificant bonus. The ones that take away stats to give you less than a full rank in a skill are the worst. You generally don't want to lower any of the stats unless you're going for a "just for fun" build.
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User Info: AzeaBraxi

AzeaBraxi
4 years ago#3
Yay, people playing Arcanum! ^-^

Bookworm
Troll Offspring
Ran Away With the Circus
Beat With an Ugly Stick
Barbarian
Sold Your Soul
Only Child
Those look like they'd give something to a fighter/mage.

Technophobia?
This - yeah, this would be good (if really annoying) but I have a feeling that certain items which are important to the plot are tech/magic and there is some reason you should steer clear of this.

As the_dracolich says most backgrounds are not great, they take (for the most part) more than they give. Never take a background because it gives a bonus (no matter how generously they describe said bonus) to a skill, the skill 'bonus' is like a sixth of a rank or something and generally it costs you a stat which costs a point.

Some give straight trades of stat point for stat point, you want these mostly giving bonuses to things you want and negatives to things that matter less if possible, or giving bonuses to things you want early and penalties to things you want late (although if you're giving up something you want late for something you want early then make sure that it is a 'fair' trade because otherwise you're giving up some of your ability to level up for a few percent chance to hit in the first ten levels or something).

Wow, just noticed Charlatan's Protege is actually kind of beneficial (in a really freaking specific way). +6 Beauty, - Strength, -2 Constitution and penalties to combat skills. That is a straight up positive trade, sadly it is for Beauty and I find that to be pretty much the most useless of the stats.

So, there are benefits to backgrounds and there are uses for them but they're not the be all and end all. They're also almost always going to cost you. They aren't 'balanced' to be fair to your character they're mostly flavour/a way to get something you really want even though you don't deserve it.

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the_dracolich
4 years ago#4
Charlatan's Protege is +6 Charisma, not Beauty. Tbh, I would've liked it a bit more if it was Beauty (I still wouldn't use it though :). I don't need more than 1-2 followers, sometimes I even go solo. And 1-2 in Persuasion is enough for me.
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AzeaBraxi
4 years ago#5
the_dracolich posted...
Charlatan's Protege is +6 Charisma, not Beauty. Tbh, I would've liked it a bit more if it was Beauty (I still wouldn't use it though :). I don't need more than 1-2 followers, sometimes I even go solo. And 1-2 in Persuasion is enough for me.


Party or no I tend to find it feels like going solo :P

I want to like having a big party but ... eh, I don't know. I find the followers to be underwhelming which is hampered further by the way experience is awarded in Arcanum. They're good pack mules though.

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Coontemptus
4 years ago#6
the_dracolich posted...
Most backgrounds are there only for roleplaying purposes. Most of them are either a rip-off or provide only an insignificant bonus. The ones that take away stats to give you less than a full rank in a skill are the worst. You generally don't want to lower any of the stats unless you're going for a "just for fun" build.


I feel like you aren't grasping that losing a point in something you won't use to gain points in something you will use is generally a good trade.
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User Info: the_dracolich

the_dracolich
4 years ago#7
Coontemptus posted...
the_dracolich posted...
Most backgrounds are there only for roleplaying purposes. Most of them are either a rip-off or provide only an insignificant bonus. The ones that take away stats to give you less than a full rank in a skill are the worst. You generally don't want to lower any of the stats unless you're going for a "just for fun" build.


I feel like you aren't grasping that losing a point in something you won't use to gain points in something you will use is generally a good trade.


I think you should shut up if you have trouble understanding my posts.
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User Info: Coontemptus

Coontemptus
4 years ago#8
the_dracolich posted...
Coontemptus posted...
the_dracolich posted...
Most backgrounds are there only for roleplaying purposes. Most of them are either a rip-off or provide only an insignificant bonus. The ones that take away stats to give you less than a full rank in a skill are the worst. You generally don't want to lower any of the stats unless you're going for a "just for fun" build.


I feel like you aren't grasping that losing a point in something you won't use to gain points in something you will use is generally a good trade.


I think you should shut up if you have trouble understanding my posts.


I could offer you the same advice, since you seem to misunderstand the character creation section of the game.

Only difference is, in my case I'm right.
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the_dracolich
4 years ago#9
Ok, smart guy. Tell me a non-roleplaying reason to use Apprenticed to a Blacksmith. Or Apprenticed to a Shopkeeper, Feral Child, Arsonist, Idiot Savant, Lady’s Man, Professional Knife Tosser... I could go on.

About half (or maybe more) of the backgrounds are total crap for any build, or just exist to add a little flavour (for example Day Mage, Hydrophobic and the like). It seems you're the only one here who doesn't realize that.
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User Info: Blue_Dream87

Blue_Dream87
4 years ago#10
God damn you two are hostile o_O

Went with Ran Away with the Circus, gonna have to make up the willpower but I'm doing good so far. Also kinda run to roleplay with it.
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