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User Info: Cogito

Cogito
4 weeks ago#11
haru is more like a door pass.
even her fan agrees she's little more rhan a filler.
Hito wa mikake ni yoranu mono
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User Info: didierre

didierre
4 weeks ago#12
Cogito posted...
haru is more like a door pass.
even her fan agrees she's little more rhan a filler.


I agree too, I liked her a lot but she was just "there" you know:

-You only meet her when she's relevant, no cameo previously in the story (just 5sec screen time during the festival in her car) unlike Makoto for example
-Her arc is part of Morgana's "b****y" arc for the 1st half
-The 5th Palace is by far the worst in the game, so much that the vast majority of players hated it
-She barely talks during cutscenes after the 5th Palace and has the least amount of interactions with the others in the whole game
-You can only level up her confident near the end of the game

User Info: andhros

andhros
4 weeks ago#13
It is what happened with P4. Ai Ebihara was gonna be a member of the IT. Then stuff changed and Rise(and Yukiko I think) picked up the parts that were important. Golden didn't change anything it just added story in places. Haru could get bonus time, but I doubt they will change anything. Maybe add her as a Hawaii date option, but it would keep her identity in the dark. Hifumi may get added screen time. And I assume many more of the Confidants, I think that is what S.Links are called, will be voiced.

User Info: Cogito

Cogito
4 weeks ago#14
probably aeon and maybe one to two more.
Hito wa mikake ni yoranu mono
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User Info: Kindler

Kindler
4 weeks ago#15
didierre posted...

I agree too, I liked her a lot but she was just "there" you know:

-You only meet her when she's relevant, no cameo previously in the story (just 5sec screen time during the festival in her car) unlike Makoto for example
-Her arc is part of Morgana's "b****y" arc for the 1st half
-The 5th Palace is by far the worst in the game, so much that the vast majority of players hated it
-She barely talks during cutscenes after the 5th Palace and has the least amount of interactions with the others in the whole game
-You can only level up her confident near the end of the game


Almost all of that could be fixed by letting you start her confidant right after Hawaii. Switch around her abilities so you only unlock her gardening stuff until she joins, at which point it backfills Baton Pass, Endure, etc. like they did with the last party member. At the very least it would make her more usable in her own Palace rather than only really being useful from the Casino onward.

User Info: Sentinel07

Sentinel07
4 weeks ago#16
Kindler posted...
didierre posted...

I agree too, I liked her a lot but she was just "there" you know:

-You only meet her when she's relevant, no cameo previously in the story (just 5sec screen time during the festival in her car) unlike Makoto for example
-Her arc is part of Morgana's "b****y" arc for the 1st half
-The 5th Palace is by far the worst in the game, so much that the vast majority of players hated it
-She barely talks during cutscenes after the 5th Palace and has the least amount of interactions with the others in the whole game
-You can only level up her confident near the end of the game


Almost all of that could be fixed by letting you start her confidant right after Hawaii. Switch around her abilities so you only unlock her gardening stuff until she joins, at which point it backfills Baton Pass, Endure, etc. like they did with the last party member. At the very least it would make her more usable in her own Palace rather than only really being useful from the Casino onward.

Additionally, add some more scenes before her recruitment.

It doesn't have to be anything too big, but it was mentioned she got along well with Makoto. Add some scenes showing the two of them perhaps at some point and that could add at least add some character time.

User Info: andhros

andhros
4 weeks ago#17
Kindler posted...
didierre posted...

I agree too, I liked her a lot but she was just "there" you know:

-You only meet her when she's relevant, no cameo previously in the story (just 5sec screen time during the festival in her car) unlike Makoto for example
-Her arc is part of Morgana's "b****y" arc for the 1st half
-The 5th Palace is by far the worst in the game, so much that the vast majority of players hated it
-She barely talks during cutscenes after the 5th Palace and has the least amount of interactions with the others in the whole game
-You can only level up her confident near the end of the game


Almost all of that could be fixed by letting you start her confidant right after Hawaii. Switch around her abilities so you only unlock her gardening stuff until she joins, at which point it backfills Baton Pass, Endure, etc. like they did with the last party member. At the very least it would make her more usable in her own Palace rather than only really being useful from the Casino onward.


I think Atlus should start her confidant even earlier than that. Around the time you leave the roof as your secret base you could be forced, or chose to, join the gardening club. Her gardening intro is pretty underwhelming and wouldn't need to give away later details. P4G gave us gardening pretty early and P5 minimalist NG+ or fresh starters could use the items on higher difficulty. Also turning Hawaii into a date could be nice.
Werewolf by Night 4 weeks ago#18
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User Info: kollie89

kollie89
4 weeks ago#19
Sentinel07 posted...
Kindler posted...
didierre posted...

I agree too, I liked her a lot but she was just "there" you know:

-You only meet her when she's relevant, no cameo previously in the story (just 5sec screen time during the festival in her car) unlike Makoto for example
-Her arc is part of Morgana's "b****y" arc for the 1st half
-The 5th Palace is by far the worst in the game, so much that the vast majority of players hated it
-She barely talks during cutscenes after the 5th Palace and has the least amount of interactions with the others in the whole game
-You can only level up her confident near the end of the game


Almost all of that could be fixed by letting you start her confidant right after Hawaii. Switch around her abilities so you only unlock her gardening stuff until she joins, at which point it backfills Baton Pass, Endure, etc. like they did with the last party member. At the very least it would make her more usable in her own Palace rather than only really being useful from the Casino onward.

Additionally, add some more scenes before her recruitment.

It doesn't have to be anything too big, but it was mentioned she got along well with Makoto. Add some scenes showing the two of them perhaps at some point and that could add at least add some character time.

Makoto says she’s never interacted with her

What they need to do is just have her walking around the school early on as a little cameo like Makoto was, maybe have a scene or two of joker casually bumping into her over the course of the year. She just needs a few earlier small interactions to make her feel like she was always a student there
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User Info: Kindler

Kindler
4 weeks ago#20
kollie89 posted...

What they need to do is just have her walking around the school early on as a little cameo like Makoto was, maybe have a scene or two of joker casually bumping into her over the course of the year. She just needs a few earlier small interactions to make her feel like she was always a student there


One of the things I liked on subsequent runs is that you can spot Makoto following you around pretty much everywhere after Palace 1. Conspicuously standing around reading a newspaper and casting furtive looks all over the place, etc. Wouldn't be too hard to work Haru in earlier, too.

Not sure about doing the Gardening Club too early. The vegetables in this game would trivialize Palace 2-5 if you could stockpile them, and would make coffee and curry pointless, especially since you don't have to waste time to get them. They'd need to add the tomatoes/carrots much later and give you significantly less valuable ones early on.
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