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User Info: marendarade

marendarade
1 year ago#1
Skill inheritance types return in P5. Each persona has a hidden inheritance type that determines what skills it can receive during fusion based on the skills' elements. These restrictions apply to both the guillotine and gallows, but can be bypassed through use of skill cards. Furthermore, unique skills cannot be passed on irregardless of inheritance type. There are a total of twelve inheritance types with the following restrictions:

Phys: Cannot inherit Fire, Ice, Elec, Wind, Psy, Nuke, Bless, or Curse skills
Fire: Cannot inherit Ice skills
Ice: Cannot inherit Fire skills
Elec: Cannot inherit Wind skills
Wind: Cannot inherit Elec skills
Psy: Cannot inherit Nuke skills
Nuke: Cannot inherit Psy skills
Bless: Cannot inherit Phys, Gun, Curse, or Ailment skills
Curse: Cannot inherit Phys, Gun, Bless, or Recovery skills
Ailment: Cannot inherit Bless or Recovery skills
Recovery: Cannot inherit Phys, Gun, or Curse skills
Almighty: Can inherit any skill

Note that Almighty, Support, and Passive skills may be acquired by any persona. Although these rules may prevent snowballing some skills during fusion chains, inheritance types can also be leveraged to pass down targeted skills during gallows fusions. This is especially useful since non-group guillotine fusions can only pass down four skills at most, while the remaining four skill slots can be fully customized through the gallows. Under these conditions we can use opposing inheritance types to fully customize our target persona. For example, let's aim to create an Arsene with the following skillset:

Arsene - Inheritance Type Curse
Megidolaon
Mind Charge
Absorb Ice
Absorb Bless
Spell Master
Almighty Boost
Almighty Amp
Magic Ability

We first create our base Arsene through guillotine fusion:
Arsene - Inheritance Type Curse
Eiha <- Innate
Mind Charge
Absorb Ice
Absorb Bless
Spell Master
Cleave <- Learned
Sukunda <- Learned
Dream Needle <- Learned

And prepare a Dominion as follows:
Dominion - Inheritance Type Bless
Hamaon <- Innate
Kougaon <- Innate
Makougaon <- Learned
Megidolaon
Almighty Boost
Almighty Amp
Magic Ability
Mahamaon <- Learned

Since Arsene, a Curse-type, cannot inherit any of the four Bless skills from Dominion, it must receive one of the remaining Almighty or Passive skills. Furthermore, a persona can never receive a duplicate skill through the gallows, guaranteeing our target skillset with four Dominion sacrifices.

A tentative list of inheritance types is provided below. Please notify me for any corrections.

User Info: marendarade

marendarade
1 year ago#2
Source: https://aqiu384.github.io/p5-tool

PHYS
Ariadne
Ariadne Picaro
Berith
Dakini
Futsunushi
Hanuman
Ippon-Datara
Jikokuten
Kin-Ki
Koumokuten
Obariyon
Ongyo-Ki
Oni
Rakshasa
Setanta
Siegfried
Valkyrie
Yoshitsune

FIRE
Asterius
Asterius Picaro
Attis
Cerberus
Decarabia
Eligor
Hell Biker
Hua Po
Inugami
Jack-o'-Lantern
Kali
Lamia
Mada
Mara
Orobas
Orpheus
Orpheus Picaro
Orthrus
Seth
Surt
Yatagarasu
Zaou-Gongen

ICE
Andras
Apsaras
Belphegor
Byakko
Genbu
Jack Frost
King Frost
Koropokkuru
Lachesis
Lilim
Mother Harlot
Satan
Seiryu
Skadi
Sui-Ki
Yaksini
Yamata-no-Orochi

ELEC
Agathion
Atropos
Barong
Hariti
Izanagi
Izanagi Picaro
Mandrake
Mothman
Naga
Oberon
Odin
Pixie
Raja Naga
Shiisaa
Take-Minakata
Thor
Yurlungur
Zouchouten

WIND
Anzu
Baal
Bicorn
Fortuna
Fuu-Ki
Garuda
Jatayu
Kelpie
Koppa Tengu
Kurama Tengu
Quetzalcoatl
Sandman
Scathach
Sudama

PSY
Chi You
Dionysus
Forneus
Hecatoncheires
Kohryu
Legion
Matador
Moloch
Okuninushi
Parvati
Red Rider
Shiki-Ouji
Shiva

NUKE
Ananta
Ara Mitama
Asura-Ou
Bishamonten
Makami
Mithras
Phoenix
Suzaku
Thoth
Titania

BLESS
Angel
Archangel
Daisoujou
Dominion
Kaguya
Kaguya Picaro
Melchizedek
Metatron
Mithra
Power
Principality
Sandalphon
Sraosha
Throne
Unicorn

CURSE
Abaddon
Alice
Arsene
Beelzebub
Belial
Black Ooze
Black Rider
Choronzon
Nebiros
Nue
Onmoraki
Pale Rider
Pazuzu
Pisaca
Rangda
Slime
Succubus
Thanatos
Thanatos Picaro
Tsukiyomi
Tsukiyomi Picaro
White Rider

AILMENT
Arahabaki
Chernobog
Flauros
Ganesha
Girimehkala
Incubus
Kodama
Kumbhanda
Magatsu-Izanagi
Magatsu-Izanagi Picaro
Mokoi
Mot
Narcissus
Nekomata
Ose
Vasuki

HEALING
Clotho
Cybele
High Pixie
Ishtar
Isis
Kikuri-Hime
Kushinada-Hime
Kusi Mitama
Lakshmi
Messiah
Messiah Picaro
Nigi Mitama
Saki Mitama
Sarasvati
Silky

ALMIGHTY
Ame-no-Uzume
Anubis
Ardha
Baphomet
Black Frost
Bugs
Crystal Skull
Cu Chulainn
Emperor's Amulet
Gabriel
Hope Diamond
Horus
Kaiwan
Koh-i-Noor
Leanan Sidhe
Lilith
Lucifer
Michael
Neko Shogun
Norn
Orlov
Queen Mab
Queen's Necklace
Raphael
Regent
Satanael
Stone of Scone
Trumpeter
Uriel
Vishnu
(edited 1 year ago)

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NextGenCowboy
1 year ago#3
This needs to be sticky'd.... stickied... stuck!

Seriously, peoples.
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Icefang526
1 year ago#4
+1 for sticky. I wish I had this information available when playing.
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sylverlolol
1 year ago#5
Icefang526 posted...
+1 for sticky. I wish I had this information available when playing.
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Crabnik
1 year ago#6
+1 from me as well. ^_^
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Hungshu
1 year ago#7
Although I not use Arsene for Megidolaon since it has 2 weakness
but this Inheritance type is nice to know thank
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User Info: hyperkill666

hyperkill666
1 year ago#9
marendarade posted...
Skill inheritance types return in P5. Each persona has a hidden inheritance type that determines what skills it can receive during fusion based on the skills' elements. These restrictions apply to both the guillotine and gallows, but can be bypassed through use of skill cards. Furthermore, unique skills cannot be passed on irregardless of inheritance type. There are a total of twelve inheritance types with the following restrictions:

Phys: Cannot inherit Fire, Ice, Elec, Wind, Psy, Nuke, Bless, or Curse skills
Fire: Cannot inherit Ice skills
Ice: Cannot inherit Fire skills
Elec: Cannot inherit Wind skills
Wind: Cannot inherit Elec skills
Psy: Cannot inherit Nuke skills
Nuke: Cannot inherit Psy skills
Bless: Cannot inherit Phys, Gun, Curse, or Ailment skills
Curse: Cannot inherit Phys, Gun, Bless, or Recovery skills
Ailment: Cannot inherit Bless or Recovery skills
Recovery: Cannot inherit Phys, Gun, or Curse skills
Almighty: Can inherit any skill

Note that Almighty, Support, and Passive skills may be acquired by any persona. Although these rules may prevent snowballing some skills during fusion chains, inheritance types can also be leveraged to pass down targeted skills during gallows fusions. This is especially useful since non-group guillotine fusions can only pass down four skills at most, while the remaining four skill slots can be fully customized through the gallows. Under these conditions we can use opposing inheritance types to fully customize our target persona. For example, let's aim to create an Arsene with the following skillset:

Arsene - Inheritance Type Curse
Megidolaon
Mind Charge
Absorb Ice
Absorb Bless
Spell Master
Almighty Boost
Almighty Amp
Magic Ability

We first create our base Arsene through guillotine fusion:
Arsene - Inheritance Type Curse
Eiha <- Innate
Mind Charge
Absorb Ice
Absorb Bless
Spell Master
Cleave <- Learned
Sukunda <- Learned
Dream Needle <- Learned

And prepare a Dominion as follows:
Dominion - Inheritance Type Bless
Hamaon <- Innate
Kougaon <- Innate
Makougaon <- Learned
Megidolaon
Almighty Boost
Almighty Amp
Magic Ability
Mahamaon <- Learned

Since Arsene, a Curse-type, cannot inherit any of the four Bless skills from Dominion, it must receive one of the remaining Almighty or Passive skills. Furthermore, a persona can never receive a duplicate skill through the gallows, guaranteeing our target skillset with four Dominion sacrifices.

A tentative list of inheritance types is provided below. Please notify me for any corrections.

Thank you so much! These are extremely useful info. I have a question, can you inherit gun/phys skills to a Bless persona with skill cards? If yes, would the effect of a phys/gun skill executed by a Bless persona be weakened?

User Info: marendarade

marendarade
1 year ago#10
hyperkill666 posted...
Thank you so much! These are extremely useful info. I have a question, can you inherit gun/phys skills to a Bless persona with skill cards? If yes, would the effect of a phys/gun skill executed by a Bless persona be weakened?
Skill cards bypass all inheritance restrictions. It is perfectly feasible to card off Phys and Gun skills onto a Bless-type persona. There is no performance penalty associated with teaching a persona skills that do not match their inheritance type.
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