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User Info: longueiro12

longueiro12
4 years ago#1
So we already had this ranking made:

Single Target:
Ayamur > Godhand > OSK (2x boosted)> Cross Slash ( dlc) > Brave blade > Myriad slashes> Sword dance

Multi:
HT > Agneyastra (3 hits) > Riot gun > Agneyastra (2 hits) > Swift strike ( 4 hits) > Gigantomachia > Swift strike (3 hits) > Agneyastra (1 hit)

However, this doesn't say how the multi-target skills compare to the single targets.

Hassou Tobi certainly does the most damage anyway, but when fighting a boss, how does say, Riot Gun compare to One-Shot Kill, or Agneyastra to Godhand?

User Info: Liquid_Sun

Liquid_Sun
4 years ago#2
The damage is based on the description. The damage is the same but AoE costs more
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User Info: mongopikis

mongopikis
4 years ago#3
Agneyastra (3 hits) > Ayamur > God Hand > Riot Gun > One-Shot Kill. The difference between Agneyastra (3 hits) and God Hand is about 10%, but it's so unreliable you're better off with God Hand to begin with.

User Info: aton_ra

aton_ra
4 years ago#4
Where's Megaton Raid?
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User Info: mongopikis

mongopikis
4 years ago#5
aton_ra posted...
Where's Megaton Raid?


Megaton Raid does less than Gigantomachia, putting it at the same level of damage as Swift Strike (3 hits), and is completely outclassed in damage by Swift Strike (4 hits).

For comparison's sake

Hassou Tobi > Beast Weaver > Agneyastra (3 hits) > Ayamur > God's Hand > Myriad Slash (3 hits) > Riot Gun > OSK > Cross Slash > Brave Blade > Agneyastra (2 hits) > Swift Strike (4 hits) > Myriad Slash (2 hits) > Gigantomachia > Sword Dance > Swift Strike (3 hits) > Megaton Raid.

Agneyastra 1 hit does the same damage as bad beat.

Despite the low damage for a "Colossal" skill, Sword Dance has an extremely high base crit rate, even if it's not reflected in the description. Apt Pupil with Sword Dance allows you to hit an 80-90% crit rate, giving it a similar niche to One-Shot Kill. However, Sword Dance is available really late in the game, and more enemies are resistant to Phys than Gun.

Despite the high power of Beast Weaver, the skill is will cause you to be permanently inflicted with tarunda for the rest of the fight. This effect cannot be dekunda'd or buffed off with Tarukaja. As such, it is arguably the worst of the physical skills for a boss fight.

User Info: aton_ra

aton_ra
4 years ago#6
mongopikis posted...
aton_ra posted...
Where's Megaton Raid?


Megaton Raid does less than Gigantomachia, putting it at the same level of damage as Swift Strike (3 hits), and is completely outclassed in damage by Swift Strike (4 hits).

Understood
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User Info: BlueSnow

BlueSnow
4 years ago#7
Riot gun is stronger than Godhand though.
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User Info: longueiro12

longueiro12
4 years ago#8
Would be good to have some numbers, if anyone's in a position to get them

User Info: BlueSnow

BlueSnow
4 years ago#9
Well, i fought the twins and did between 680-780 damage with Riot Gun (double boost+attack buff)
Godhand did between 580-680 damage (with attack buff)

Both Persona had 99 ST.
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hollow_shrine
4 years ago#10
mongopikis posted...
Despite the high power of Beast Weaver, the skill is will cause you to be permanently inflicted with tarunda for the rest of the fight. This effect cannot be dekunda'd or buffed off with Tarukaja. As such, it is arguably the worst of the physical skills for a boss fight.

Whose idea was that? I thought you could fix that or that it wore off naturally.
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