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User Info: KCF0107

KCF0107
2 months ago#41
To Do:
- Send mccheyne Colts stats
- Start Updating Spreadsheet
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If you smell what the rock is cooking he's cooking crap - ertyu

User Info: TheKnightOfNee

TheKnightOfNee
2 months ago#42
Doing this now while I know I have time.

Some of these guys have some very impressive resumes.
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DoubleTangicide
2 months ago#43
KCF0107 posted...
14. CB Victor Alejo
- Played all 8 seasons for the Pioneers (0 games)
- Earned $10+ mil in his career to show up for practice and otherwise be an overly-pampered NFL player without ever playing a down

this is hilarious lmfaooooo
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TheKnightOfNee
1 month ago#44
Daytime bump for voting
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Ranlom
1 month ago#45
I'm shocked a dominant Cowboys player is doing well in the poll. Good riddance i say!
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User Info: KCF0107

KCF0107
1 month ago#46
I will publicly reveal my bracket like last season:

HB Carnell Williams - Yes

One of the most productive HBs we've had on a per season basis, and I would assume that he has the most career yards in B8NFLL history with a good YPC. It also helps that he's carried (no pun intended) that offense for the second half of his career. And an added bonus is that his body of work would also enshrine him if this were reality. Easy call.

HB Cedric Benson - No

He's been an above-average HB at his best (really just in Buffalo), but for the vast majority his career, he was mediocre. I mean, his 3.9 YPC and being a complete non-factor in the passing game kind of says it all. His longevity and opportunities given may have afforded him a good career rushing total, but there was never a point in time where one would call him among even the Top 10 best HBs in the league.

HB Laurence Maroney - No

As the resident Golden Gopher fan, I want to say yes so bad, but he simply doesn't have the body of work. He was so underutilized across his career, it hurts. He had to operate in a Michael Vick offense for nearly his entire career, which took away a lot of touches from him. The AI actually made him the #2 HB in two seasons. The post-Vick and injured-Vick offenses were shifted to passing-oriented, which continued to make him second fiddle, on a good day.

FB Brian Leonard - Yes

The easiest call. He will almost certainly be the only FB even considered to be placed on the ballot given it is impossible to quantify the impact of pure-blocking FBs, and in general, FB stats are ugly to look at. Leonard had a career YPC that nearly matched Benson. The dude had 88 total TDs and made the Pro Bowl every season (though I will admit that Pro Bowl voting for FBs is entirely based on stats and not blocking prowess).

RT Kareem McKenzie - Yes

He compares to our inductee from last year, Mark Tauscher. They have similar accolades and were pivotal in their ability to provide their teams with excellent rushing attacks. Tauscher had a better peak, but I would say that McKenzie was statistically the more consistent player.

RT Floyd Womack - No

He was a very good OL for his career, and the 6 or fewer sacks allowed every season is very impressive, but I just don't see him as Hall of Fame material. There's a lot of OTs like him, but very few are like McKenzie.

C Chukky Okobi - Yes

I totally understand why people would say no. His block totals per season are pretty paltry, and he does not have a Pro Bowl nod to his credit. I blame that on block totals being the main factor on Pro Bowl voting, which I do realize circles back to what his main criticism is. However, that is an absurd Block/Sack ratio for an interior OL. Check your stat PMs from the years to verify that. He and Hall of Fame inductee Tutan Reyes formed one hell of a tandem in Oakland.

LOLB Leroy Hill - Yes

I know compared to real life players, Hill's stats won't match up. MLBs in general soak up the counting stats more than OLBs, so for Hill to still have a career like this, with across the board production at that, is very impressive to me. I felt like he was probably robbed of 2-3 Pro Bowl nods too. He's been a highly underrated OLB for his career, and I feel he is HoF-worthy.

LOLB David Pollack - No

Pollack does have all those Def TDs and being the one steadying force in the Jags LB corps for a consistently great Jags D, but I just can't bring myself to say yes to him. Great career, not a hall of fame player.

ROLB Demarcus Ware - Yes

I am a huge fan of ironman streaks, so him playing all 192 games is a big deal to me, and those FR figures, especially in comparison of his peers, are eye-popping to me. He wasn't a one-trick pony either has he compiled great sack and INT totals relative to his position. I'm not going to look past his overall lack of accolades and say yes.

LOLB Shawne Merriman - No

Merriman is an interesting case. Having missed more than two whole seasons worth of games in his career (38), his per game stats actually stack up well, and he was one of the few players holding that Chiefs D together as the seasons went on. Ultimately though, I never thought of him as an elite OLB during his career, and his body of work suffering due to missed time is too much to overcome.

SS Eric Weddle - No

I really like that Weddle flew under the radar. I don't think many people thought he had that kind of career, but that also means people, including me, never really thought of him as a top SS in the game. I wonder if he would have accrued the kind of stats that people couldn't ignore if the final few seasons of his career didn't come as a backup (though we've had some excellent seasons by backup SSs)

CB Domonique Foxworth - No

I was honestly just trying to find some player to add a little variety to the mix. There really isn't much of a case for Foxworth. He played for the Titans D for most of his career, so obviously he wasn't much good. He may have had 6 KR TD, but he had no PR, and is 6 really Hall of Fame material? Roy Helu Jr. is the only player right now that I am voting in based on return stats.

CB Victor Alejo - No

Obviously not. I just wanted to give one final shoutout, before everyone forgets him, to living the dream of getting paid millions for relatively little work and only putting your body at risk during select practices. If only the real Victor Alejo stumbled upon this...
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(edited 1 month ago)
Oh hey, my votes were identical except for Foxworth I think. I struggled with Foxworth because CBs are so unproductive stat wise and all my own team comparisons were nowhere close even without the return TDs. So that kinda tipped it over for me.

Weddle was another I struggled on. I actually wrote No then Yes and then back to No. Again I compared him to my own dude and figured his stats were good but not great. It was just the length of time he did it for that was impressive. My SS outperforms him on a season by season basis but won't come close to his career stats because he just won't play anywhere near as many games. I wasn't sure how much to value the consistency across a career though

Edit: And yeah with Chukky I went yes even though the rankings for him suggest no. That career sack/block ratio is that insane for a C even for a few seasons, nevermind an entire career. I did remember you highlighting how crazy his stat line was a few seasons back when we asked what was a good ratio for an interior O-line player
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KCF0107
1 month ago#48
With this new wave of retirements, HBs and OLBs now join FBs in positions that have no players (on roster or free agent) from the inaugural season still around. Here is the position breakdown:

QBs: 5
HBs: 0
FBs: 0
WRs: 8
TEs: 3
OTs: 22
Gs: 32
Cs: 9
DEs: 19
DTs: 10
OLBs: 0
MLBs: 5
CBs: 3
FSs: 1
SSs: 1
Ks: 14
Ps: 11
KCF can't actually be a real person but he is - greengravy
If you smell what the rock is cooking he's cooking crap - ertyu
KCF0107 posted...
Bills hire former 49ers OC Gil Haskell

Another year of extraordinarily questionable coaching hires in Buffalo!

KCF0107 posted...
He is 28-10 entering his third season with the club.

Does the game include postseason wins, or were you just keeping track separately?

Ballot incoming in next post...
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KCF0107
1 month ago#50
KCF0107 posted...
I don't think that I have ever done an overview of the league's head coaches. I will list the head coach from each division and include their record as a head coach. It will include Ws/Ls from any head coaching stint prior to B8NFLL as well as the playoffs.
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