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User Info: Eddv

Eddv
1 month ago#31
Unranked Tier:

This is a character I don't have enough exposure to to fairly rank.

N/A. Christopher Pike

I simply have not watched enough of season 2 of DISCO to have a fully formed opinion of him, sorry.

This is more an indictment of Discovery than it is of Pike himself. He seems fine and a definite retreat to a more Trekky feel but I don't know him.
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SaveEstelle
1 month ago#32
#58. Katherine Pulaski
"Two robots and a good old-fashioned vacuum cleaner enter a bar. Data, did that break you? Why, it's just that you're nothing more than a machine."

It's highly unfortunate that Katherine Pulaski's name sounds vaguely akin to "Roman Polanski" but that is not her fault. However, her casual racism (as fellow fifty-eighter board-eighter Anagram just mentioned) is certainly her fault. She strikes me as mean and vindictive even though that's not quite what the writers intended. We're supposed to regard her as "Bones II: Return of Bones" but despite her actress' best intentions she's more like a wet blanket who reduces the quality of all other actors around her. There is very briefly an effort to produce some sort of chemistry between Pulaski and Picard but thankfully it's soon expelled. Pulaski, too, is soon expelled.

My biggest grief against Katherine Pulaski is technically not Katherine Pulaski's fault -- she's never even name-dropped ever again after Beverly Crusher returns to the show. She's a title character for every episode of season 2 of Star Trek: The Next Generation whose name is avoided like Voldemort or whatever as of the season 3 premiere. It's like a big apology from the writing staff. Or maybe the actress would have received ten bucks in Burger King coupons if they'd dared to speak her name? Who knows. All I know is that it's silly and it makes it feel like Pulaski's even more immaterial than she was whist she was on screen.

There's this one episode where Pulaski tries to treat a peculiar case of an entire colony of folks rapidly aging and she, too, begins to age rapidly. I'm not saying her actress looked ancient in general or anything but it's really strange how, like, she doesn't really look much different in her make-up-overload hundred-year-old self. It's like she went from irrelevant somewhat racist wallpaper to irrelevant somewhat racist wallpaper with a few cracks along the edges. It doesn't matter that there are cracks along the edges in the latter picture because no one I care to associate with is going to cover their house with Katherine Pulaski in the first place.

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ZenOfThunder
1 month ago#33
Ngl I was expecting Pulaski in dead last on most lists
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User Info: Eddv

Eddv
1 month ago#34
58. Michael Burnham
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Just a disaster of a character. Season 1 of DISCO revolves around her Poochyesque existence. So the least she could do was be interesting and worth that? That is incorrect. She is dry. She is calculating. This might have been somewhat acceptable if they'd gone ahead and just made her a Vulcan but no we didn't get that.

She tramples all over other characters spotlight episodes and is in general an omnipresent weight on anything the show might be trying to accomplish.

It is owing to her arc/presence that discovery is a show that I don't find especially watchable. Again if you're going to insist on departing from Star Treks ensemble format the character based drama you are replacing it with should at least be good or intriguing.

And it's not. And that's why she gets last place. A bad lead is just poison to a character based drama and that's exactly what Burnham is

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scarletspeed7
1 month ago#35
Wow. Burnham in last place? Really?
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1 month ago#36
scarletspeed7 posted...
Wow. Burnham in last place? Really?
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scarletspeed7
1 month ago#37
I get it off of season one, and I'm not a massive defender of the character, but she was SO much better in season two.
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Eddv
1 month ago#38
I only got a couple episodes into season 2 before shelving the show which is why I didn't even rate Pike
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scarletspeed7
1 month ago#39
You didn't rank this man?

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Eddv
1 month ago#40
I quite literally ranked with a N/A rank like 15 posts up from here.
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