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User Info: CoolCly

CoolCly
3 weeks ago#151
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Why is Spider-Man's incorporation into other MCU films, plus a large profit in merchandising, not a fair trade for time spent developing Spider-Man films? That was Disney/Marvel's goal, no?
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3 weeks ago#153
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3 weeks ago#154
HeroicSpiderPig posted...
Why is Spider-Man's incorporation into other MCU films, plus a large profit in merchandising, not a fair trade for time spent developing Spider-Man films? That was Disney/Marvel's goal, no?


Likely because it became a bigger deal than either thought it would, and so it went from a passable deal to one that isn't very smart, business-wise, for Disney. They could just be decent people and continue it, anyway, but businesses aren't ever "decent people" in pretty much any situation involving money.

Both sides are greedy in this instance. Disney wants more money because they have bigger dollar signs in their eyes after seeing how well it's been doing. Though they also want to co-finance, so it'd be a case of both companies putting money in and both companies getting paid, instead of just Sony putting money in and getting paid. But Sony currently very much likes being the only one putting money in and getting paid because it means they get paid much more. And they have the perk of being able to "This was the original deal, after all."
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User Info: CoolCly

CoolCly
3 weeks ago#155
Well, it was worthwhile at first, but does it make sense to continue to make the movies for free forever? At what point should they stop doing it? Is it in 10 years? In three more movies? Is it now?
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HeroicSpiderPig posted...
Why is Spider-Man's incorporation into other MCU films, plus a large profit in merchandising, not a fair trade for time spent developing Spider-Man films? That was Disney/Marvel's goal, no?


It probably started out that way, Spider-Man in Civil War was a huge deal and widely hyped. But now that the MCU has become this unstoppable juggernaut franchise that s***s out billion dollar movies, the balance has shifted. Far From Home might have benefitted more from being in the MCU than the MCU benefits from Spider-Man and that's what Disney is banking on.
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3 weeks ago#157
CoolCly posted...
Well, it was worthwhile at first, but does it make sense to continue to make the movies for free forever? At what point should they stop doing it? Is it in 10 years? In three more movies? Is it now?


Its hardly 'for free'. 5% of the gross + merchandising a lot for a film they paid $0 to produce.

Sony is still taking all the risk and fronting all of the costs here. It just isn't being percieved as the risk it is because of how unstoppable the juggernaut has become.
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GranzonEx
3 weeks ago#158
I don't think Disney is dumb enough to bank on a character's movie rights they don't own for the next decade when planning their future phases, especially when they just bought back the rights for two big teams that can replace the Avengers

do you honestly think they were going to have Spider-Man lead the Avengers? why would they give up any merch rights when they don't have to lift a finger to see easy returns?
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Mac Arrowny
3 weeks ago#159
I feel like the Spider-Man MCU movies haven't even done that well at the box office. 2002's Spider-Man is still the most successful domestically at the box office, and that's without even taking inflation amount. Sure, they've benefited from being in the MCU, but that's only because the Amazing movies hurt the brand. Spider-Man's still not as big as when the original trilogy came out.
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Eddv
3 weeks ago#160
GranzonEx posted...
I don't think Disney is dumb enough to bank on a character's movie rights they don't own for the next decade when planning their future phases, especially when they just bought back the rights for two big teams that can replace the Avengers

do you honestly think they were going to have Spider-Man lead the Avengers? why would they give up any merch rights when they don't have to lift a finger to see easy returns?


Because it's f***ing Spiderman and there has literally never been a good Fantastic Four movie.
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