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Tom Bombadil
1 month ago#21
5tarscream posted...
I’m not sure if I’m glad that I caught up. That seems like something I don’t want to read. Mainly because it just sounds like a f***ing mess


....that's fair!

Eerieka posted...
You may have watched the OVA, btw, which came out before the anime but starts further in (and then consists of flashback sequences before the series).


that sounds about right- maybe I'll give the main anime a shot!

but we have some nonsense to deal with first

The Demon Ororon Vol. 3 of 4

Today's BGM: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3cXjcKTRWcg

We return to Chinland, where Ororororororon was fine the last time we saw him but now he is collapsing from mortal wounds in front of Kuro and....Lika, maybe? Flashback to Chiaki losing control and blowing up the city- Ouran High School Host Club wanted to save her but since she was the one doing the exploding he got overruled and teleported out. We got her later. Now Chiaki is recovered and Auron is dying because he's dying. Chiaki looks a little smug about wiping her hometown off the map before having a breakdown about it. That means it's time for Sexy Angel Man to show up and try to encourage her to keep living but also offer to have her gloriously killed if she'd prefer. There's an attack on wherever it is that we are these days! Da Doo Ron Ron is going out in Unit 02 despite being on death's door. Lucy the Scary Maid is the first line of defense and Chiaki is running around worried for her of all people. The attacking force is attempting to avenge the death of the demon kid from the end of last volume.

O-Ren Ishii reminds us that he is injured and weak, then one-shots the attacking group. Lucy has also bloodlessly subdued the group attacking her offscreen. Some angel lookin' dude rallies them. More action things happen- I thought they were flashbacks because they have black background, but it appears to mostly fit what is currently happening, or, I dunno, and I don't really care anymore. Nyoro~n continues whining about his wounds and beating up everybody while simultaneously having a heartfelt talk with Chiaki. A kiss happens and we continue kicking around the dad that is trying to avenge his son.

Chiaki is the same kind of horrible kill-doing person as Oro~ because she has been killing monsters with her talisman (mentioned in vol. 1 but didn't seem functional, or otherwise important enough to mention in my writeup) since she was little. blah blah killing dying living forgiving blah. The Jobber Brigade has gotten tired of being a Jobber Brigade, and summons Ganimaaru, which is apparently really bad news.

Meanwhile in an office building, people are looking for Othello but he's probably busy with his new plaything. We've finally found O-Ron Swanson! (look the Oronron puns can't all be winners ok) We barge in on Othello to tell him we're shipping out, but there's blood all over the bedroom and one of them is stepping on the other one and there's an extra eye. I just love this subplot it's my favorite and really relates to anything else happening, ever.
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1 month ago#22
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Ganimaaru turns out to be...a big Flying Man from Earthbound, but it's very scary you gotta believe me, even though he looks like a Persona you'd get at like level 8. Ororon is way too wounded to be fighting but one shots him with a really big fire spell that his body can't handle. Continuing to no-sell, Ororon prepares to nuke the jobbers once and for all, but Ganimaaru blocks the shot and calls out Ororon for holding back. Ganimaaru is a girl(?) now: "Garo Garon Ganimaaru- Holy Spirit of the Highest Rank and Office."

Meanwhile Othello (bleeding from an eye socket) and the rest of the Fun Times Demon Jamboree finally show up. Othello breaks the magic barrier, which seems to be a big deal. We receive a report that some dude is besieging some city.

My rating: 1/10
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5tarscream
1 month ago#23
No Ron Weasley joke. I'm disappointed.

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Tom Bombadil
1 month ago#24
I knew I forgot somebody
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1 month ago#25
Tonight, the "grand" finale of Oronald Mcdonald! I don't drink very often, but tonight we're bringing in reinforcements in the form of moscato in a disneyworld glass. I never claimed to know anything about how you're supposed to wine, but I need something to get me through the last round of anorexic stretch armstrongs.

The Demon Ororon Vol. 4 of 4

Today's BGM: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vlpLYBuTN04

I think maybe the following sidestories are actually part of Volume 3? Oh well. Othello is 10, but you wouldn't know from looking at his face. He beats up some rapists and stuff then meets one of his present-day army subordinates (Futaba, the then-general of the army) for the first time. Turns out she's a girl, which is news to me as much as it is Othello. He repeatedly proposes marriage to her, and she agrees on the condition that he beats her in a duel tomorrow. That being established, Othello wanders off with a prostitute. He beats her and marries her in the course of a page, and they have a son (Yotsuba) on the next page who is another one of the army gang I think. Whoops, Futaba is going to be executed for disobeying an order, and Othello has to do it or the army's going to be wiped out. CLIFFHANGER ENDING~~~ I coulda sworn she is still alive but the narration says she dies. I guess it could be both.

Mifune is 12, and has two arms, three eyes, and no goggles. Standard-issue hated-by-everybody tragic backstory to follow. The village blames him for a plague and that's what happened to his arm. He's missing fingers from it too, apparently- I never noticed. Thus he became a professional murderer, with dreams of killing the king of hell. Somebody finds him and offers him a reason to live! I'd be lying if I professed an ability to tell who that is, but I'm guessing Othello even though this seems to be before Mifune became his love slave.

Alright, back to the main story. It seems that the mystery eye is Mifune's third eye, and he wants it back. Oh that line from the backstory WAS Othello- he's giving Mifune a reason to live, and that reason is hatred or maybe wanting his eye back or maybe just torture fetishization. Anyway this is all pretty funny to the army dudes because Othello makes an attempt at a joke or two. He also swaps out the Mifune eye for one of his own. Yotsuba the Son is one of several to question if Mifune is worth this level of....whatever it is. You see, Othello is a real softie who plays the bad guy to I don't even know anymore why is this subplot a thing.

I'm not sure what is going on the next couple of pages but it looks like some of the as-yet unimportant people have caught up with Ororon. Oscar is here! He's another of the 7 brothers. We're running out of time to meet the other four, man. Ororon accuses him of trying to kill him and of poisoning mother dearest, but Oscar denies it. Orga is leading a rebel army against Klan Blue, which doesn't mean anything more to me than the last time somebody said it, but I guess they're rebelling against Ororon? Oscar appears to be on Orga's side, and Othello on Ororon's, and I guess Orga is another brother. Ororon and Othello don't even WANT the kingship so I dunno why we're supposed to be upset about a coup.
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1 month ago#26
Bird-Garo apologizes to Girl-Garo that he could only save one of the jobber demons. Maybe I was wrong that they were the same person? Othello intercepts Oscar's finishing blow, allowing Ororon to vamoose with Chiaki. Except he gets stepped on by Bird-Garo. Wait no, they're talking about Ororon, so maybe this is Othello. We have an attempt at a heartwarming moment where Ororon and Chiaki contemplate breaking up so they don't hurt each other any more or something but only they understand each othe-OH NO IT'S A GIANT BLORPY HUMANOID OOGA BOOGA. Oh no it killed Ororon, allegedly.

Oscar takes Chiaki hostage against the Tertiary Character Alliance. Oh no the ooga booga guy is gonna destroy Ororon but oh no he is accidentally gonna get Chiaki too. Ororon gets better and we have a tearful reunion but Oscar starts getting mad and slapping Chiaki around. I am not sure what happened to Ororon, or the ooga booga for that matter. The rest of the Z fighters look on in horror, unable to compete with Oscar's powers of, uh, glasses wearing and girl slapping? One of the catboys has had enough, and boldly steps forward to...do nothing as we cut back to the main characters. Ororon is dying oh no.

Meanwhile in hell, there's a cool guy with glasses, and some explosions. I'll hazard a guess that this is Orga conquering the capital. Kuro and Jobber Demon guy argue over whether this is a good thing. Oscar and Othello and Ororon trade witty quips as Ororon continues to bleed out. Orga is named Olga now. Did you know he was attacking Klan Blue? Oscar disembowels Ororon. Lovely. Ororon wants Chiaki to look away, but she doesn't wanna. Some dude, probably a good guy, kills some other dudes, probably bad guys.

Mifune shows up and calls Oscar "four-eyes." ...I gotta admit, I chuckled. Othello tries to get girl-Garo to save Ororon and Chiaki despite her having been summoned there to kill him. She doesn't know what's happening. Same, tho. Oh no Oscar has the Senior Counselor who is the most important entity in hell. I'd tell you who that is if I remembered or saw him, but he's probably one of that squad of people whose names didn't seem important enough to note.

Backstory: Ororon was the only one to oppose the whole Othello-executing-his-wife sentence, and Othello has been loyal to him ever since. She agrees to help and they have a celebratory frick frack. Nobody's really got anything to do right now anyway, just a big climactic fight and a civil war. Mifune decides this is a good time for a sneak attack, but just gets punked again. Othello sends him off to train and come back to have an actual fight to the death when it'll maybe be a challenge. What a swell dude isn't he great. Othello wanders off to fight Oscar, telling Garo he'll try to make it painless because those two used to date. She has a boyfriend now too btw but that didn't seem to stop either of 'em. Garo wanders off after flirting with Mifune and some dudes are gonna kill him.

Ororon is even more almost dead than he has been for the last two books oh no it's so sad. Lika sneak attacks Oscar with an axe, gaining enough bonus from the backstab to pierce his damage reduction. Sexy Angel Man looks on. Ororon is almost dead oh no it's so sad. Oscar chucks the axe into Lika's side. Shiro joins in for what looks like a suicide attack. Lucy the Scary Maid appears out of somewhere to lead Chiaki to safety. Oh no Oscar got her too.
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1 month ago#27
Somebody does a Kewl Pose with a jacket. Girl-Garo (I think?) confronts a guy summoning head monsters. A dude is standing by some windows. Somebody has a gun to somebody's head. Some of the minor characters are talking about Ororon. Somebody's pleased with the hallway full of corpses behind him. Something happens with a gun and some guys.

Chiaki's down, Ororon's up, and the axe suddenly has a much longer handle. Okay I think I have figured out the previous paragraph: we saved the (very pretty) Important Politician but most of us got wiped out. Othello checks in and departs with the coolest looking survivor, leaving Yotsuba behind with Politics Bishonen. Ah heck looks like all of these people are gonna wind up being worth mentioning after all okay. Charles the Politics Bishonen reprimands Tachibana the Stripey Guy (who did NOT actually follow Othello out the window) for protecting him when his loyalty should be to Ororon. Yotsuba accuses Tachibana of being a puppeteer behind everything.

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There's a dragon! It looks better than anything else I've seen in this manga so far. Come to think though I think the art has gotten slightly better over time. We have a bad case of sameface still, but the necks are no longer outrageous and this is one of a few panels this volume that....actually succeeds in looking kinda cool.

Anyway I think Ororon summoned this dragon with the last of his strength. We're having dramatic internal monologues and he's down again. It is heavily implied that the dragon is killing Oscar. Ororon died. The end.

My rating: 3/10
SOME of the stuff we were trying to do actually landed this time- it was a reasonably written climax, just not adequately built to over the previous 3.9 books. It's still not my thing even at best, and we really left some stuff dangling like Mifune and Tachibana and Sexy Angel Man, and, y'know, the entire coup of hell. The story kinda just ends with a couple pages of Chiaki's internal narrative explaining that Ororon died- no resolution, no explanation of what happened next, no room for it to breathe. It almost works. Almost.

Overall: 2/10
I can kinda see what we were going for in a few things. I feel like a remake could turn this into something pretty cool- chill with the Mifune torture, give the three main characters distinguishable faces, flesh out all these secondary and tertiary characters, resolve the storylines. The seeds are there, I think. But boy this was not particularly enjoyable in its presented form, and it wouldn't have really appealed to me even if it was done better.

Discussion question: What's the worst piece of media you have finished?
Hint for next: We have survived the word "demon" but it seems we're not quite out of the bishonen woods yet.
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5tarscream
1 month ago#28
Worst piece of media was the first sookie stackhouse book. It was part of a trilogy and I finished book 1 and never opened it again. I am a completionist and it still bugs me that I didn't read the other 2 but it was absolute dog s***.

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1 month ago#29
Descendants of Darkness, Vol. 3 (of 6)
By: Yoko Matsus***a
Whose fault: Wifebolo
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The previous volumes have been lost to the sands of time, I'm told, but I'm also told that this is a fairly easy one to pick up even without context. Something about dealing with corpses. Fortunately, as ever, we have our handy dandy plot recap and character gui- just kidding this manga is too cool for that.

We're at some sort of processing center for the dead. Tsuzuki Asato is a shinigami and he's pigging out on sweets, to the chargrin of co-worker Hisoka Kurosaki. They're called into Chief Konoe's office, where they are met by him and Tatsumi the glasses character. They're being sent to sort out some missing people from Hong Kong, that we suspect are being smuggled. Folks are supposed to be dead but they aren't turning up.

Our two bishinigami board a Kakyoin Corporation passenger+cargo ship that is suspected of being connected. We have a weirdly drawn little bird sidekick thing (a Gushoshin?) to tell us stuff. Hisoka is going undercover as a VIP while Tsuzuki is going to be a card dealer. Here's a dramatic entrance by Muraki, who we're supposed to know probably. He greets Tsuzuki all creepy-like. Hisoka is not enjoying the VIP party life, and meets a med student, the Mr. Kakyoin himself, his mistress, and a politician. There is one more VIP we haven't met. Hisoka has some sort of episode/flashback/psychic attack, resulting in a meet-cute with Camille Kakyoin. She has heart problems but she's okay thanks to her super great doctor, Muraki. (dun dun dunnnnn, probably)

Muraki shows up to elegantly mock Hisoka and not be dead like he's supposed to be. He is indeed our villain, having previously killed Hisoka, and he does the whole vaguely sexual mind games thing while warning Hisoka to behave. Camille kisses Hisoka and tells him to feel better.

Kakyoin and Politics Man have one of those important but vague conversations. Actress lady hears a noise. Our heroes regroup. Ladies and gentlemen I regret to inform you there has been a TERRIBLE MURDER! Politics man has been deprived of his heart, and locked in his room holding a candle with a tarot card under the door and vampiric puncture wounds. This apparently fits Muraki's M.O. INVESTIGATION START.

Muraki identifies poison as the cause of death. The floor is a closed room, so the culprit must be among the people we've already heard of. Actress Lady accuses Kakyoin. Our boys accuse Muraki. Also our radios are out, so we have to proceed to Hong Kong instead of returning to Hakata. Muraki says that blood was NOT lost from the vampire-bite-lookin' wound, and claims that Med Student can back him up. Also, Camille vouches that he was tending to her at the time.

Camille brings our dudes a creepy love letter that is presumably from the culprit, containing a tarot card and implying that we're gonna get more murders. Her internal monologue doesn't sound like she's guilty, but she has an idea. A sidepanel confirms that Muraki is bi and has a girlfriend but he hits on Tsuzuki anyway. Now we're playing poker for Tsuzuki's body. Meanwhile, there was a girl who used to work here named Eileen who disappeared. Oh hey btw there's an extra passenger named Eileen. Also passengers are complaining about the sound from somebody dragging something around. Welp, those are probably all random unconnected bits of info, nothing to see here.
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1 month ago#30
Camille shows up with another letter from Beatrice but no time for that Muraki is dead! Med Student identifies the same cause of death as Politics Man, but nobody ripped his heart out this time. Our little mascot dude is being blocked from contacting the home office, so we send a messenger pigeon instead. The tarot cards we have are from two separate decks, oddly. (and Muraki's was ripped in half) Camille is chillin' with Muraki's corpse to give us some exposition- Muraki tended to her mom as well, for the same heart condition. (cough cough poison cough) She liked Muraki but he was taken. She and Hisoka have a little moment. Later we hear Actress and Kakyoin squabbling, then we find Actress dead in a box with the usual letter. Meanwhile, the home office has figured out that they can't contact us, so they're sending a team.

Actress has the bite marks and missing heart like Politics...wait there's two cards in there and Kakyoin is also dead. Muraki snaps out of sleep. Hisoka has some sort of nightmare relating to what Muraki did, which also involved putting some sorta mark on him. Also rape. There's a bracelet that has been changing hands throughout the story, and it has a microchip with the layout of the ship. Camille and Hisoka have a little chat about our mutual friendo Muraki. Muraki murdered Hisoka and now Hisoka is....a shinigami, I guess, because he's not alive. Tsuzuki meanwhile is checking out a room that was marked on the map. Hisoka explains more stuff to Camille, which is convenient for those of us joining this manga in progress. Hisoka has a powerful healing factor now, and was chosen from among the dead with regrets to become a shinigami. Tsuzuki has been ambushed by...Muraki, with weird stuff coming out of his eye!

Hisoka finishes bringing Camille up to speed (including blowing his cover identity) and asks her about Eileen. Eileen was a childhood friend who sold Camellia flowers (it's a REFERENCE y'all) and got hired to work on the boat. Then she disappeared. Meanwhile, Muraki explains that he's been pulling a Princess Bride and working on his poison tolerance for years, allowing him to put himself in suspended animation so he could....sexually assault Tsuzuki, I guess. Also, he has a glass eye, Camille gets around, and Actress and Politics were blackmailing Kakyoin into rigging high stakes gambling. Okay byyyyyyye.

We find a secret chamber in that one room, but before we can investigate it, there's a scream. Camille is choking out Med Student...but she's not Camille, she's Eileen! Camille murdered her, y'see. She was one of several victims harvested for parts and kept alive in that secret chamber, and Camille got her heart. She killed Politics because the blackmail made Kakyoin more desperate for cash, Hojo was in the wrong place and saw the murder of Kakyoin, and Muraki was the one to take the heart from her. But the real mastermind behind it all was....whoops, Muraki shot her before she could finish that thought, but yeah it was him. Kakyoin had wanted to back out of the whole heart-stealing thing, but Muraki went through with it and used drugs to convince Camille that she was Eileen because it was her heart.
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