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User Info: LusterSoldier

LusterSoldier
4 weeks ago#441
Ngamer64 posted...
How much older are we this time Luster?


I'll report this info once today's poll goes final.

AxemRedRanger posted...
Looks like the average date of birth probably crawled backwards another few months or so


It went backwards by about 4 months compared to the previous age poll in 2017.
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User Info: LusterSoldier

LusterSoldier
4 weeks ago#442
It just occurred to me that I may have been calculating average age completely wrong. With the options that cover a specific age range such as 29-32, I would always use 30.5 as a median value when calculating average age. That may have been the wrong approach here since 29-32 covers a period of 4 years (age 29, 30, 31, and 32), so the correct median age would be 31 for the 29-32 age group. Those who currently 32 would have to vote for 29-32 even if they are just one day away from turning 33 at the time the poll was being ran.

If I were to change the way I calculate average age based on this discovery I made, it would have to be retroactively applied to the average age calculations of the previous age polls. This would also affect average date of birth calculations as well. I'm still unsure if I want to stick with the already established method of calculating average age or go with the newer method, which would actually increase average age by about 0.5.
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User Info: AxemRedRanger

AxemRedRanger
4 weeks ago#443
I think the way you’ve been doing it might make sense in general because ages for individuals don’t round up; someone one day away from turning 33 isn’t 33; they’re 32.

If we’re using the average age to also calculate the average date of birth though, then yeah, the implied decimals after someone’s age matter and shouldn’t be truncated and so 31 would be better as the average of 29-32 than 30.5.
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User Info: LusterSoldier

LusterSoldier
4 weeks ago#444
Yeah, I use the average age (once calculated) to then calculate the average date of birth. It works by taking the average age and multiplying that by 365 (days in a year). I don't factor in Leap Year when doing these calculations, but it can certainly be adjusted for. If you wanted to adjust for Leap Year, you'd multiply the average age by 365.25 instead (0.25 because of the extra day every 4 years).

Going off the old method of calculating average age, our latest age poll had an average age of 32.04. Multiplying this by 365 gives you 11694.60, which can be rounded up (or down if the decimal part is less than 0.5). Finally, you take the date of our latest age poll (8/15/2019) and subtract 11695 days from that date. This operation can be performed easily in Microsoft Excel, but it also works in Google Docs as well. The final result of subtracting 11695 days from 8/15/2019 is 8/8/1987.

I might decide to adopt the new method of calculating average age, so this current average date of birth is subject to change later on.
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User Info: Ngamer64

Ngamer64
4 weeks ago#445
Luster is too darn modest to link his hard data so I'll do it for him.

https://board8.fandom.com/wiki/GameFAQs_Average_Age

We were 17 in 2000, finally cracked 20 in late 2007, stopped attracting any new users in 2010 and have essentially been aging in real time since then. Hit 25 in late 2013, passed 30 in early 2018, and now we're 32.

SB might need to stop running this poll in a couple years- we're about to age out of the demographic advertisers want to target.
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User Info: AxemRedRanger

AxemRedRanger
4 weeks ago#446
I was bored at work and redid all the calculations for average age and average date of birth myself using the proposed more accurate method:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1khrDwtBulqTOdT_Pcvyz7jvijaBjDj4ku3-l6DaPre4/edit?usp=sharing

Results might differ very slightly from what Luster would get because of certain assumptions made; see Notes section for details.
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User Info: LusterSoldier

LusterSoldier
4 weeks ago#447
AxemRedRanger posted...
Results might differ very slightly from what Luster would get because of certain assumptions made; see Notes section for details.


I did my own calculations using the new method to revise the average age for every age poll we've had so far. In my calculations, I use the following assumptions for the average age in the Under/Over age groups:

Before 2006:

Under 7 - 6.5
Under 9 - 8
Under 10 - 8.5
Under 13 - 10.5

After 2006:

Under 9 - 9
Under 10 - 9
Under 13 / 12 or under - 11
Over 40 - 45
Over 45 / 46 or older - 51

Unlike AxemRedRanger, I chose to use 45 as the average age for the Over 40 option instead of his choice of 46. This is because the Over 40 option appeared in age polls during a time when the Over 40 age group made up a far smaller percentage of the site than it does right now, so it was not as likely that we had a lot of extreme outliers (people over 60) affecting the average age of the entire Over 40 age group. With Over 45, I had previously used 50 in my older calculations, but I chose to revise this to 51 as this age group is a growing segment of the GameFAQs userbase. In the 2003 age poll, I chose to handle the poll mistake with the 31-35 and 35-40 age groups by assigning average ages of 33.25 and 38.25 respectively, which is nearly identical to how AxemRedRanger handled this.

I treated the Under 9 / 10 option separately depending on when the age poll happened. When the Under 9 option returned as an option beginning with the 2012 age poll, it was receiving a much higher percentage of votes than the Under 9 option had gotten prior to 2006.

Starting with the 2012 age poll, the Under 9 option received the following percentage of votes - 0.82%, 0.87%, 0.75%, 0.82%, 0.87%, 0.64%

This is notably higher than what the Under 9 option got prior to 2006 (0.49%, 0.53%, 0.59%) despite the site's average age being way older after 2006. Joke voting is suggested to be the main reason for Under 9 getting an even higher percentage of votes in the more recent age polls, with possibly more than half of the votes for Under 9 being joke votes coming from people who are much older than 9. Evidence for joke voting is supported by 12 and under getting a lower percentage (0.42%) in the most recent age poll compared to Under 9's average percentage (0.80%) in the age polls from 2012 to 2017. To adjust for the effect of joke votes for Under 9, I set the average age at 9 for that option in the age polls after 2006. To a lesser extent, I think Under 10 may have been affected by joke votes in the age polls from 2007 to 2011.
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User Info: Ngamer64

Ngamer64
3 weeks ago#448
Good news gang!

LadyVyxx posted...
No real details sadly...

SBAllen posted...
LadyVyxx posted...
Allen will we get a Game of the Decade 2 contest late this year / early next year ?!?!

Or any new contest in the foreseeable future?

@SBAllen
Next contest is under discussion but I can't really share any deets yet.
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User Info: Advokaiser

Advokaiser
3 weeks ago#450
If Game of the Decade 2 is the next contest I'm gonna be in serious trouble regarding my Guru pick.
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