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User Info: HaRRicH

HaRRicH
8 months ago#1
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*LoZ and Smash spoilers below*

From the user who brought you Team Chocolate, The Stable, and Metal Men...and the user who brought you Yoshimitsu, Corvo, and the Metal Sonic Army...comes the loftiest goal for a rally in Board 8 history.

Welcome to the official Sheik-rally! We have one goal: ensure Sheik (Super Smash Bros. Ultimate) gets in the next Character Battle by out-nominating Princess Zelda.

Don’t think it’s possible? Epona out-seeded her in 2013...and we weren't even trying.

Somebody play Zelda's Lullaby, because we're putting her to rest.

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128 characters seen in Super Smash Bros. have been featured in at least one match. We have also seen 171 playable fighting game characters that are featured in at least one match. All of these characters have been given their chance before Sheik, a repeatedly top-tier fighting character in a repeatedly top-tier fighting series.

It's time we stop this injustice with a game-winning Bouncing Fish.

Cue music.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZIm_22ivIuU

So why Sheik? Let's start with her origin. Sheik stars in Nintendo's all-time classic game, the Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time. She comes to Link's aid in a shroud of mystery, teaching you the songs you need for warping to each adult dungeon. Her reveal near the end is a memorable moment, forever reminding us about that one time in the ‘90s when Zelda was cool.

Sheik’s impact allowed her to return as an alternate costume in the Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild. We also saw her become playable in Hyrule Warriors. That’s pretty neat!

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All that is hype enough as is, but also this rally began because Sheik kicks ass in Super Smash Bros. She just made it into Ultimate, the fifth game in the series...and yet, out of all the playable characters, Sheik is the only one left who's been in every Smash-game since Melee but has not made it into a match yet. She is also the highest-tier Smash-character we haven’t seen yet. This puts her lagging behind fifty-eight playable characters and seventy other characters seen in the series who made it in before her. Sheik deserves a chance!

Meanwhile, while we're talking about the Smash-series, do you know who's not that good? Zelda! There’s a good reason Nintendo completely separates Sheik and Zelda in the past two Smash-games: becoming Sheik was Zelda's best feature, and starting as Zelda was Sheik's worst problem. #DownB


Strength-wise, Sheik's a wildcard with a high floor. She's beating at least 80% of the characters we've seen in Smash before. Few characters we've seen in any other fighting game would stand a chance against her either. Meanwhile, from the LoZ-series, she crushes the likes of Tingle, Groose, and Midna. Sheik-fans are far more openly proud than Epona's fans, so chalk up a win there too. On the other end of the spectrum, Sheik would resist SFF against Link better than Ganondorf did either time due to Smash.

Whether we talk about LoZ, Smash, the fighting genre, or even GameFAQs contests in general, there is arguably no bigger snub than Sheik.
O P E R A T I O N O U S T : Nominate SHEIK!
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User Info: HaRRicH

HaRRicH
8 months ago#2
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BOLD PREDICTION: Sheik beats Zelda one-on-one. Sheik is so much better than Zelda in every Smash-game and Sheik steals the show from Zelda in her strongest LoZ-game, so Sheik is taking this if given the chance to face her. It's too bad we might not ever get to prove that prediction though, due to some ineligibility rule...so if SBAllen must decide there can only be one of them in at a time, then Sheik will just have to kick Zelda out and prove her dominance through nominations.

For our closing argument...Epona proved something important in 2013: the Legend of Zelda has more to offer our Character Battles. Epona outseeded both Ganondorf and Zelda, and then she beat Ike by almost as much as Pikachu could. That isn't just the result of joke-support; that's legitimacy within the Nintendo fanbase. People love this series and its characters, so now we can prove it again with another fan-favorite named Sheik.

It’s time for a new legend.

Rally for Sheik. Oust the princess.
O P E R A T I O N O U S T : Nominate SHEIK!
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User Info: HaRRicH

HaRRicH
8 months ago#3
O P E R A T I O N O U S T ™ :

vB) HaRRicH
vB) ZenOfThunder
3) Eddv
4) AxemRedRanger
5) MetalmindStats
6) UltimaterializerX
7) hombad46
8) STEINER
9) Shonen_Bat
10) TAFKAHurricane
11) Logience
12) Janus5k
13) Dels
14) WarThaNemesis2
15) A new legend.....

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BOARD 8'S STEPPING-STONE GOALS:
--> Five (5) blind pledges from Board 8 - DOUBLE SUCCESS
--> Ten (10) pledges within the rally's first week
--> Five (5) unique users adding Sheik-based signatures

BOARD 8'S MAJOR GOAL:
--> Eighty (80) pledges to support her getting into the contest by CB11's nomination-period
O P E R A T I O N O U S T : Nominate SHEIK!
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User Info: HaRRicH

HaRRicH
8 months ago#4
A DISCLAIMER:

Okay so listen, @ZenOfThunder and I are excited to get deeper into this rally, but we gotta be real with you now that we got our pitch out of the way.

We talked with SBAllen about Sheik's contest eligibility. After a few feedback tickets, he filed us away for future consideration.

It's not a no! ...but it's not a yes yet either.

The point is, this rally for Sheik might not work despite our best efforts -- for every Chester and WWF No Mercy, there is a Jay Solano and Sonic 3 & Knuckles. We believe in this rally succeeding with your help, but you should know that risk going forward.


We recognize this rally will lead to conversations regarding contest eligibility, and we welcome them in good faith.

So, as we begin, please note:

We are asking all people pledging for Sheik to also voice if they think it is more appropriate to:

1) Allow both Sheik and Zelda into the same contests, or

2) Only allow Sheik in contests where she out-nominates Zelda.


You will see our case for Sheik as we push this rally forward. Long story short though: we are advocating to allow both characters, but we're also out-nominating Zelda just to be safe.

We'll keep a tally in-house among Sheik-supporters, and then we'll take a broader board vote later on after we make our case public and talk about it awhile. We'll follow up with SB afterward for a friendly update on both Sheik's support and how the board feels about this issue of eligibility.

We're doing this, and we're doing this the right way.

Either way we go -- whether Sheik's debut requires breaking the nomination barrier or requires out-seeding Zelda -- we are not afraid. If SB decides later on to officially shut us down, c'este la vie...but while it's undecided and filed away for future consideration, this is our best chance ever for Sheik-fans to finally show she has legitimate support.

Let's help SB decide. =)
O P E R A T I O N O U S T : Nominate SHEIK!
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HaRRicH
8 months ago#5
@Eddv
@AxemRedRanger
@MetalmindStats
@UltimaterializerX
@hombad46
@STEINER

Here's the rally you bravely jumped into -- thank you for your early support! Please share your opinion on contest philosophy regarding whether it is more appropriate to:

1) Allow both Sheik and Zelda into the same contests, or

2) Only allow Sheik in contests where she out-nominates Zelda.

We'll poll the board later but we're tallying Sheik-pledgers first...and either way we go, we're ready to get her in. What do you think though?
O P E R A T I O N O U S T : Nominate SHEIK!
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User Info: HaRRicH

HaRRicH
8 months ago#6
@Shonen_Bat
@TAFKAHurricane
@Logience
@Janus5k
@Dels
@WarThaNemesis2

Here's the rally you bravely jumped into -- thank you for your early support! Please share your opinion on contest philosophy regarding whether it is more appropriate to:

1) Allow both Sheik and Zelda into the same contests, or

2) Only allow Sheik in contests where she out-nominates Zelda.

We'll poll the board later but we're tallying Sheik-pledgers first...and either way we go, we're ready to get her in. What do you think though?
O P E R A T I O N O U S T : Nominate SHEIK!
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User Info: MetalmindStats

MetalmindStats
8 months ago#7
Heyo!

I would personally prefer seeing Sheik in the field along with Zelda. To me, Sheik is distinct enough to merit a separate slot in her own right, and Zelda would be quite a snub.
Hail the reigning Guru champ, Advokaiser!
You proved yourself more statistically metal-minded than I ever have been - well done!

User Info: Kenri

Kenri
8 months ago#8
I'm down to try, but Sheik and Zelda are literally the exact same person. The precedent has usually been to combine those nominations. I can see Sheik's noms just getting wrapped into Zelda's total.
Congrats to BKSheikah, who knows more about years than anyone else.

User Info: AxemRedRanger

AxemRedRanger
8 months ago#9
I think the appropriate thing is for SBAllen to just count all the Sheik nominations as Zelda nominations since they're the same character and disqualify the nominations of anyone who tries to cheat the system there by nominating both.

>_>
[NO BARKLEY NO PEACE]
[NO Advokaiser NO PEACE]

User Info: Logience

Logience
8 months ago#10
I did what now? I didn't say Sheik should be nominated as separate from Zelda. I just said it would be a cute bonus match for ten seconds before I realized it would still end up with Zelda mauling Sheik.
>unironically playing video games
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