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User Info: lordloki12

lordloki12
5 days ago#131
Yeah that early on it has not really hit its stride yet for sure.
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User Info: HanOfTheNekos

HanOfTheNekos
4 days ago#132
Iron Man 3

Ranking this one is going to be tough.

So first of all, miles and miles better than Iron Man 2, but I think that goes without saying. From what I'm told, then only thing that will threaten to unseat Iron Man 2's seat at the bottom is the... next movie. Woo.

The format of the movie, being told as a story from Tony's point of view, is pretty solid, although a little weird because we haven't seen something like it before. The movies are all told from a 3rd person omniscient point of view, but this one is a 1st person omniscient... which makes it a little weird when scenes without Tony happen. But I digress. This leads to two amazing moments... one is ending the movie with the same line that the first one ends with "I am Iron Man", but with so much more meaning and completion to it. Tony's arc throughout the entire 4 movies ends really solidly here - he has his place in the world, he understands who he is, what his self and Pepper mean to him. His conclusion is really good. So of course I expect them to ruin it with Avengers 2.

The other great thing is it leads to the post-credits scene, which is absolutely amazing. It hits the "Marvel humor" button better than anything else in the movie, with Tony talking to MARK RUFFALO as if he's a psychiatrist. Who slept through the entire movie.

Tony's relations with other characters are really highlighted well throughout this. It shows 99 Tony, which of course is an unforgivable a******. It shows his friendship with Rhodey, and how he has him on speed-dial and how the guys are still bros... man, this is the movie we're missing. A proper Iron Man 2.5 with Tony and Rhodes just going to town on people. Guy better get more screentime in the future.

We get Tony's love for Happy which is just heartwrenching </3 :'( Tony really cares and notices every little thing for Happy and that's just beautiful. We get his relationship with Pepper, which as usual is Tony cares, but does stupid things, and if she wasn't so strong, this would totally be an abusive relationship (still is, but she holds her ground well enough). Like, she's too good for him, really.

And of course, Tony's relationship with casual people. Continues to be a jokester and absolute a******, but... maybe others don't like this, but his chemistry with the kid was awesome. I also didn't feel like it was "WE GOTTA PUT A KID INTO THIS" to cheaply play on kids being cute like IM2 did or "LET'S HAVE A GOOFY ASS STORY ARC", I really felt that the whole Tennessee thing was well done. Mostly because Tony didn't act particularly different to the kid, which let us see that he's still become a really good dude who is insufferable to be around.

The villain was strong. The Mandarin was set up really well from the beginning, and they didn't really even try to hide that Killian was involved with the s***. I can't remember how I felt the first time I watched it, but I feel like they hid Mandarin being a figurehead pretty well. That said, at the end of the movie, Killian yells "I'M THE MANDARIN" which is unnecessary, like, we've figured it out dude. Trevor Slattery A+ though.

Stan Lee's cameo was the best of the Iron Man movies. One half-second of him giving a 10 to a beauty contest contestant. Good and brief.

How this felt as an Iron Man movie - it gave us personal challenges and development without killing the character/movie a la Iron Man 2. Like, so soon after Iron Man 2, it feels a little cheap, but remembering that movie as awful makes this one do it better. It humanized the hero, but also solidfied him. I come out of this movie saying "Iron Man has his place in the MCU". It's a shame he went and blew up all his suits though.

Pepper totally killed a guy.

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User Info: Mr Lasastryke

Mr Lasastryke
4 days ago#133
oh wow, i thought i was the only person who preferred iron man 3 to 1. i thought the mandarin twist was really dumb, though.
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User Info: Maniac64

Maniac64
4 days ago#134
Maybe I need to rewatch iron man 3, cause I remember not liking it but so many people love it.
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User Info: HanOfTheNekos

HanOfTheNekos
4 days ago#135
Iron Man 1 was funnier, I enjoyed Tony Stark more in it. But the villain was worse, the plot development felt a lot more cookie cutter whereas IM3 had better pacing, and the development and overall cast was stronger in 3.

As for the twist, I'm having trouble being sincere on it. I don't remember how I felt watching for the first time. Why did you feel it was dumb?
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User Info: Maniac64

Maniac64
4 days ago#136
I really didn't like Killian and the magic fire stuff. I don't remember liking the Pepper storyline. I think I got annoyed at the little kid parts.

Having a ton of super specialized suits seemed weird and pointless. Especially ones designed to just do regular jobs.

I actually liked the Mandarin fake-out except that I want a real Mandarin enemy and Killian was not that. Felt like a lame way to end the 10 rings stuff. And then Marvel kind of retconned it?
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User Info: Mr Lasastryke

Mr Lasastryke
4 days ago#137
Maniac64 posted...
Maybe I need to rewatch iron man 3, cause I remember not liking it but so many people love it.


for clarity's sake, i don't LOVE it. pretty decent film but it's not up there with the all-time greats of the MCU, obviously.

HanOfTheNekos posted...
Why did you feel it was dumb?


i... just don't entirely get why they did it? when i saw the movie for the first time i was impressed with how well they adapted the mandarin character from the comics, and then it turns out he's just a fake? why?

imagine if you're watching avengers 1 and midway through the movie loki is like "OH ACTUALLY I'M JUST A CIRCUS CLOWN GUYS LOL" and some random dude is like "i am the REAL loki!!" pretty sure you'd be like "wtf?"
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User Info: Tokoyami

Tokoyami
4 days ago#138
Hey I'm glad you enjoyed Iron Man 3! I'm a pretty big stan for it, it's not like in my TOP tier of Marvel movies but I think it's super super cool. SUCH an improvement over Iron Man 2
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User Info: HanOfTheNekos

HanOfTheNekos
4 days ago#139
I get that, Lasa. It was a very IRL-relevant type villain, but basically used as a facade for the real villain, who was, again, just a rich guy in charge of things.

Might as well:

Marvel One-Shot: All Hail the King

This was good because it got to play on a fun character, fake Mandarin, who didn't get enough time in Iron Man 3. Also, it established that there IS a real Mandarin in the world, which is potentially cool, but also potentially dumb, especially if they establish this and never continue it.

The only thing I heard about the 10 rings stuff from before was the Rhodes comic where he missed the attack on New York. Are there other 10 rings references in the MCU?
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User Info: ClyTheCool

ClyTheCool
4 days ago#140
I have plenty to say about IM3 later, but yeah theres plenty of Ten rings stuff. The terrorists that captured Tony in IM1 were Ten Rings.
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So more power to North Korea for this one. Good show. - MWC
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