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User Info: HanOfTheNekos

HanOfTheNekos
2 weeks ago#11
I guess they made Hammer so unbelievably unlikable to make Whiplash more likable?

Nick Fury shows up and says... Tony turned him down?

So does this movie take place before the post-credits scene of Hulk then? Tony said he was looking for

Hammer handing this bunker-buster to Rhodes feels like a Chekhov's gun.

Young Howard Stark is better than middle-aged Howard Stark. This whole montage of watching old videos of him is dumb. It does nothing, aside from give him a chance to know his dad loved him. Wow.

Coulson is really catty in this film. Not sure if I like.

The pacing in this film is just.... eh. Something happens. Something immediately happens in response. It feels often like you're just in one extended scene.

And... Tony fixes his health problem. Suddenly... the movie is more interesting? I get that it's heading into the climax, but man I'm suddenly a lot more engaged.

Love Happy "I'm not driving you anywhere!" "Want me to drive?" "No I'm driving!" And then Peter Parker makes his debut appearance in the MCU.

Black Widow is awesome, but this scene with her breaking into Hammer headquarters is dumb. Just bring Hammer next time so you have authorization in person. It was cool watching Happy beat up a guy though.

Scene between Rhodes and Tony is A+. Fight scene that follows is pretty solid as well. Whiplash is a little disappointing though... the guy designs everything to get back at Stark... and he goes and fights him with a shoddy helmet and whips? For one, Tony is an idiot for not just flying away and getting distance, but after all this arc reactor stuff, Ivan just makes arc whips? Come on man. I guess that was the best way to get a physical consistent arc-powered weapon, but jeez. How lame.

O'Reilly and Musk cameos were a little funny. Stan Lee's was as lame as his Iron Man 1 one, except this time it was a split second and easy to miss.

Overall... what a transitional film. Basically existed to introduce Black Widow, and Rhodes as Iron Man, I guess. And further Tony's story development, but... eh. The vast portion of the movie was just uninteresting. And annoying at times. It had some really good moments, particularly between RDJ and Cheadle. Paltrow and Scarjo were amazing as well. But the plot, pacing, most of the action, the villain(s)... just, bleh. I'm going to have to ruminate on this for a bit to see if I rank it above or below Hulk.

Post-credits scene with Coulson driving out to New Mexico was hype as hell though. Thor has a lot of trouble fitting in to modern society, but that hammer. DAMN.
"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

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HanOfTheNekos
2 weeks ago#12
The decision was actually pretty easy. I'm going to repost my write-ups for the first 3 things first though.

Iron Man
Better than I remember it being. From the very beginning, I laugh a lot, and I'm immediately enamored by Robert Downey Jr.'s Tony Stark. This was the most important Marvel casting decision - they needed to reel people in from the beginning, and in minute 1, Tony is already cracking jokes and winning people over. I'm not checking how much they pay him, but the MCU owes a lot to this man.

The origin story is good. Tony's Dr. friend is fun, and the amount of time they spend in the cave seems appropriate to really establish all the important things - Tony has a thing next to his heart keeping him alive, and he's real smart and builds stuff. It also establishes early on that he IS a good person, which allows them to show him off to be the jerk he really is.

The building of the Iron Man suit is a fun little montage, but it feels like it jumps really quickly from him figuring out the boosting from the gauntlets and boots to the whole suit. But it's still fun. I missed the action scene in the middle of the movie, but it sounded like it was probably pretty good!

Peppering in SHIELD was pretty neat as well. Coulson really nailed it from the beginning.

The romance with Pepper was done solidly, but from the very beginning it was pretty obviously being pushed onto us. Even Tony's jerkiness wasn't going to be enough to stop it. And Obadiah... equally obvious. From the beginning, he seemed like he was pretty obviously going to be the villain (and I mean IMMEDIATELY, as soon as the magazine cover of "Obadiah takes over Stark Industries" was covered by "Tony takes over as a 21 year-old!"). Also, there's the fact that he's the villain in GotG 2. And dare I say... Infinity War?

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Even from the first movie were there references to Thanos! (Aislyn disagrees with me that they look alike but w/e)

The climax was... alright. Tony vs. Obadiah wasn't necessarily the coolest battle, and the suits icing up scene was pretty clearly telegraphed from early on. However, everything blowing up was cool.

Post-credits scene - Samuel L. Jackson as Nick Fury was maybe the 2nd most important casting decision in the MCU (I'd only argue Starlord over him, at the moment... Tom Holland could beat that later on). And letting the audience know from the beginning about the "Avengers Initiative" was brilliant. I don't know if Marvel expected to be as successful as they have been, but they were gunning for it.

Best moment of the film?

"Actually... I am Iron Man."
"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic
Iron Man 2 is at the bottom of the MCU for me along with Thor 2

And actually Avengers 2 is pretty far down.....luckily Captain America 2 and GOTG 2 give the 2's a good name!
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HanOfTheNekos
2 weeks ago#14
Captain America: The First Avenger

And we begin the pattern of Captain America movies having subtitles from the beginning.

Given that this movie was released at the end of Phase 1 before Avengers, it begins in the 'present', and acts as a flashback. Cap's origins are done well - we get to experience weak Steve Rogers. He's short and weak. Reminds me of myself, but with less charm. Also, we get to meet Bucky from the beginning! Fans are like 'omg, it's him'.

Anyway, Erskine is a total boss and was written well enough to make you upset when he gets canned. The buildup as we learn how good a dude Rogers is solid, and we get to see Nazi Elrond go super bad, which is a really effective way to get him introduced. Peggy Carter is also added in pretty well - well casted, well acted, and you get the feeling that she doesn't just want Steve for his future muscles. Speaking of which, he gets used to his new body really quickly.

The montage of him being the stage show is meh. It has some good moments, but it's more of a plot setter, and not particularly enrapturing. The plot really doesn't do a whole lot until Cap decides to go behind enemy lines, directly proving wrong the line about "you're just one man". This scene, while done well, has some bad moments. Cap meeting Skull is good, but the reveal of his face being... the Red Skull, is kinda lame. Simply because his Elrond face was too good that him taking it off felt odd because it wasn't telegraphed enough. Erskine talked about extra changes happening, but it felt more... odd that the guy just had a red head. Also, the stakes with him and Bucky escaping were a little too high for this point in the film.

Getting his new shield is kinda cool. Peggy getting mad at him is a little silly and unnecessary. Stan Lee's cameo was pretty solid... got a funny line out of it. Joining up with the Howling Commandos and Dum Dum is a fun nod to comics fans as well. The combat after Cap gets his shield is pretty great, and I wish they had a little more of it before the film ended, but oh well. And then Bucky dies! Oh no D: It's so sad when someone dies off screen.

The climax of the film was done pretty well, although the pacing was maybe a bit stunted. Everything occurring in the bomber was great, including Red Skull's defeat, as well as the <strikethrough>infinity stone</strikethrough> Tesseract falling into the water. Even though Cap's descent into the water was sad, it was mainly only sad for Peggy because we knew Cap would be alright. And I'm very glad they still kept the romance on the early stages - the two obviously cared a lot for each other, but didn't go so far as to "I love you". That could have been written poorly, and it luckily wasn't.

The ending to the film was done pretty solidly as well. Cap reappearing in the 21st century and running around Times Square was solid, and like with Iron Man, the film ended with a pretty good one-liner.

Overall, the villain was WAY better than Iron Man's, and it did a good job at introducing the Tesseract, but the film was a little long and dragged a bit at points. While very good... it just doesn't quite hold my attention well enough to be placed above Iron Man.
"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

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swordz9
2 weeks ago#15
Iron Man 1 is so good. It’s a shame 2 and 3 are pretty ehhh. Somehow Captain America got the best trio of films in the MCU despite probably being the most boring character of the group.

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Jakyl25
2 weeks ago#16
HanOfTheNekos posted...

Nick Fury shows up and says... Tony turned him down?

So does this movie take place before the post-credits scene of Hulk then? Tony said he was looking for


This particular bit of chronology is a mess that needed some of the most heavy handed retconning I’ve ever seen
Thank you, Eddie Guerrero.
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RyoCaliente
2 weeks ago#17
swordz9 posted...
Iron Man 1 is so good. It’s a shame 2 and 3 are pretty ehhh. Somehow Captain America got the best trio of films in the MCU despite probably being the most boring character of the group.


Iron Man 1
Cap 2
Thor 3

How's that for a mind blown eh?
How paralyzingly dull, boring and tedious!

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swordz9
2 weeks ago#18
I haven’t seen Thor 3 yet, but everybody says it’s good. It is weird how that happened. I guess Avengers counts as a trio now even if the latest one is like half of the movie or whatever. I have a couple movies in the MCU to see still, but they’re not up on Netflix or Hulu or anything I have yet

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Mr Lasastryke
2 weeks ago#19
swordz9 posted...
I haven’t seen Thor 3 yet, but everybody says it’s good.


i don't.
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User Info: HanOfTheNekos

HanOfTheNekos
2 weeks ago#20
Agent Carter: Season 1

I alluded to it earlier, but some of the early writing for side characters was pretty cheesy. They really nailed it with Peggy, Howard, and Jarvis though. As the season went on, it strayed further away from that. There were still moments of cheese throughout, but it didn't pervade.

While I think Peggy's character was well-done, I am a little disappointed that the show took a "this is 1950's America" approach to their British woman who was a war hero. Not only does she get no respect, but nobody is even aware of a reason why she's an agent at the SSR. Her capabilities are basically nil. They answer this later with why she did her own investigation, but even still, it's a bit of a dumb situation.

I really liked the villain. His henchwoman was... eh, but the moment I realized that the guy was Dr. Faustus, I was pretty pleased. Good on Marvel to toss a bone with using an actual Captain America villain. Good use of hypnosis, and the intrigue and everything leading up to his reveal as the villain was well done.

Speaking of which, they managed to ramp up tension pretty well throughout the show. I mean, we know that Peggy, Stark, and Jarvis will turn up fine in the end, but they were cutting out agents left and right. They weren't afraid to kill other characters off, and that helped add some good tension throughout.

Stan Lee's cameo was ok. Nothing special.

One other little thing I thought interesting was how spy thrillers are accompanied by a main theme in an uneven meter. I blame Mission: Impossible for this, with its theme being in 5, but the credits theme for Agent Carter is in 7/8 and I just find it funny that that's a thematic similarity for spy thrillers.
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