Trophy lists in order rather than alphabetical.

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User Info: Colossus-X

Colossus-X
2 weeks ago#1
I always wondered why they were put in alphabetical. I understand the benefits of putting things in alphabetical order but for trophy lists (especially those that contain a lot of secret trophies) it makes it more of a pain to find out which trophy you need.

User Info: Lord_Wombat

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2 weeks ago#2
I agree.

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User Info: Eevee-Trainer

Eevee-Trainer
2 weeks ago#3
Speaking from the aspect of the contribution end:

If you submit a trophy list, or achievements or whatever, you could submit them in any order and the site wouldn't really know the difference. (I've done by trophy type or score, alphabetical, the actual order, whatever.) You could probably argue that the site could just Google it and find the order, but that results in a problem:

You'd have to use time to do this for the tens of thousands of lists on the site, and then further time to sort them manually to that order.

Alternatively you could force the contributors to simply do it in order but that'd necessitate the retroactive pulling of pretty much every list on the site, which isn't constructively.

These reasons are a good chunk of why the site probably favors alphabetical sorting - aside from how they already do that for regular cheat lists too.

Personally I just don't see a way to implement this that doesn't do one of these:

- Results in a ton of work for the admins
- Results in retroactively pulling the lists that don't comply
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User Info: Colossus-X

Colossus-X
2 weeks ago#4
All I'm saying is most other sites list the trophies in the actual order of the trophy list the developers created, not alphabetical. I mean it's really not a big deal I just go to another site when I want to look at trophies but just thought I would mention it in case it was overlooked but apparently there's a good reason as you've pointed out.

User Info: Eevee-Trainer

Eevee-Trainer
2 weeks ago#5
Yeah I mean, I'm not against it: the idea certainly has merit and it's not the first time I've heard of this. There just needs to be a feasible way to implement this is all; if such an implementation arises I'm totally on board.
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User Info: TriforceSD

TriforceSD
1 week ago#6
How about a toggle button or drop down option to sort these kinds of things different ways?

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User Info: ironyisntdead

ironyisntdead
1 week ago#7
I agree with Eevee's points. Some of the lists I've submitted were not in the intended order.
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1 week ago#8
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User Info: Notti

Notti
5 days ago#9
TriforceSD posted...
How about a toggle button or drop down option to sort these kinds of things different ways?

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I'd like something like that.

Perhaps give each column the ability to be sorted.

Column 1 Trophy v^ | Column 2 Description v^ | Column 3 Worth v^

Clicking column 1 would alphabetize by trophy name.
Clicking column 2 would order things by their default in game ordering.
Clicking column 3 would order things by their worth. (easiest to hardest, and a tie breaker for non-secret to secret?)

By default, things would follow in game ordering. (column 2 click)

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As for it being too much work to find all the real ordering, well, this is GameFAQs. That's what Gfs got us players for :)
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User Info: Eevee-Trainer

Eevee-Trainer
5 days ago#10
You're talking about tens of thousands of lists that have been compiled over roughly a decade, considering this affects Trophy and Achievement lists for three PlayStation consoles, 2 Microsoft, and the 3 main operating system things (PC, Mac, and Linux).

No offense but "relying on the players" to find the order retroactively would be rather nightmarish and would probably not get done for even more years. Even moreso considering that only a small number of users actively hunt for things like these to submit.
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