How is it back in the ps2 days games didnt have any bugs like we have this gen/

Last gen.


All these patches you get every few months to make the game better.


Hel, back in the ps2 game nearly every game ran perfect, lol there was no sending out updates so developers took that extra time when they would delay a game to actually make it bug free(MGS,GOW,Final Fantasies,GTA,GT,TMNT)

Games got more complex.

Games got more complex, systems got more complex to code for, budgets weren't as high so they could eat the cost of a delay to polish it much better, etc.

Games had bugs back then. Most fixes I've seen in patch notes are things I've never encountered while playing.

Games still had bugs, although not as many. Also consoles weren't online yet so devs couldn't rely on patches to fix any mistakes.

rapius002 posted...

Games got more complex, systems got more complex to code for, budgets weren't as high so they could eat the cost of a delay to polish it much better, etc.

The primary reason is none of these.

The main reason is the fact that they can easily release patches now.

Back in the day when a game went gold it was in a state the publisher felt was complete, at least enough to not piss off customers. Today though? A game that goes gold means they think they can finish it on time for release with a patch.

Partly, it's the simple fact that being able to patch is creating launch laziness among developers. "We can fix it later, let's get some money!"

But you are also conveniantly ignoring the fact that PS2 era games weren't perfect. I would even say that the PS2 is possibly the worst console I have ever owned. I can't think of another console where I have experienced system freezes and crashes. And that wasn't faulty hardware, some of the games were just that poorly programmed no matter who's PS2 you played it on. The Champions of Norrath games were especially buggy and unstable.

Patching in today's console games is an ugly business, but at least problems do get fixed now.

#1 - Games have had bugs since the very beginning of gaming.
#2 - Games have grown more complex as time has passed.
#3 - Modern technology allows for patches post release.

This isn't exactly a brain busting concept if you put 3 seconds of thought into it.

Enclave posted...

rapius002 posted...

Games got more complex, systems got more complex to code for, budgets weren't as high so they could eat the cost of a delay to polish it much better, etc.

The primary reason is none of these.

The main reason is the fact that they can easily release patches now.

Back in the day when a game went gold it was in a state the publisher felt was complete, at least enough to not piss off customers. Today though? A game that goes gold means they think they can finish it on time for release with a patch.

As a past-QA tester for Sony during the PSX and PS2 generations, I agree with this. There was more accountability back during those generations; so publishers had to have their game shipped in a state that was as "perfect" as possible, hence why so few buggy games back then. Now, developers and publishers have become too reliant on the "release now, patch later" mentality that is driving quality games on day one down sharply. It's really pathetic, to be honest with you. Also, when a publisher says a game has gone "gold," it no longer implies the same connotation as it did prior to the PS3/Xbox360 generation since they really never finish developing their games thanks to patches and DLC.

Games were only 750 mb back then. Hard to screw that up.