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User Info: Ctrlaltdleet

Ctrlaltdleet
3 months ago#1
Does Ferocity effect Bow shots? Or is it only Daggers ?
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User Info: AliceUnchained

AliceUnchained
3 months ago#2
I believe (and don't quote me on it, I'm not certain because I usually use bow skills and not single shots) that bow's/longbow's single shots are affected by Ferocity, but not bow skills like 5/10 fold, etc. due to quick loose (a core skill).

I hope that helps, and I hope I am correct. :) It affects True Seeker (core skill) for Magick Archers too as far as I know.
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User Info: Ctrlaltdleet

Ctrlaltdleet
3 months ago#3
See that's what I was thinking as well, but I was looking for more concrete evidence. As an assassin I tend to rely mostly on my bow unless fighting climbable enemies.
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User Info: Darth-Simous

Darth-Simous
3 months ago#4
Ctrlaltdleet posted...
See that's what I was thinking as well, but I was looking for more concrete evidence. As an assassin I tend to rely mostly on my bow unless fighting climbable enemies.


Greetings, @Ctrlaltdleet . Ferocity indeed affects single bow shots on all Weapons & Bows, alike - ShortBows, Longbows & Magic Bows. But the 10% - per average - it gives a boost to - as to all core skills, is negligible, due to the fact the single bow shots are inneficient to all vocations wielding them. Ferocity has the most effect on Mages & Sorcerers, when using Holy Focused Bolts, due to multi-hit strike - each bolt out of the cluster gets a boost - hence it is best used on Casters.

Difficult to provide "hard data" nowadays, since we most have our Damage Meters MAXed - U can do damage tests early on in the game, mostly...

If your Assassin Arisen is STR-Based - "Pure STR Build" - go with Clout, Vehemence, Adhession, Opportunism, Bloodlust & Sinew.
Cheers ...
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User Info: Ctrlaltdleet

Ctrlaltdleet
3 months ago#5
Darth-Simous posted...
Ctrlaltdleet posted...
See that's what I was thinking as well, but I was looking for more concrete evidence. As an assassin I tend to rely mostly on my bow unless fighting climbable enemies.


Greetings, @Ctrlaltdleet . Ferocity indeed affects single bow shots on all Weapons & Bows, alike - ShortBows, Longbows & Magic Bows. But the 10% - per average - it gives a boost to - as to all core skills, is negligible, due to the fact the single bow shots are inneficient to all vocations wielding them. Ferocity has the most effect on Mages & Sorcerers, when using Holy Focused Bolts, due to multi-hit strike - each bolt out of the cluster gets a boost - hence it is best used on Casters.

Difficult to provide "hard data" nowadays, since we most have our Damage Meters MAXed - U can do damage tests early on in the game, mostly...

If your Assassin Arisen is STR-Based - "Pure STR Build" - go with Clout, Vehemence, Adhession, Opportunism, Bloodlust & Sinew.
Cheers ...


Oddly enough I was reading bloodlust is no longer the go to specifically for BBI. The amount of night time there is so short, it's not useful ? This could have been false information, but however I appreciate your help friend.
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User Info: Darth-Simous

Darth-Simous
3 months ago#6
Ctrlaltdleet posted...
Darth-Simous posted...
Ctrlaltdleet posted...
See that's what I was thinking as well, but I was looking for more concrete evidence. As an assassin I tend to rely mostly on my bow unless fighting climbable enemies.


Greetings, @Ctrlaltdleet . Ferocity indeed affects single bow shots on all Weapons & Bows, alike - ShortBows, Longbows & Magic Bows. But the 10% - per average - it gives a boost to - as to all core skills, is negligible, due to the fact the single bow shots are inneficient to all vocations wielding them. Ferocity has the most effect on Mages & Sorcerers, when using Holy Focused Bolts, due to multi-hit strike - each bolt out of the cluster gets a boost - hence it is best used on Casters.

Difficult to provide "hard data" nowadays, since we most have our Damage Meters MAXed - U can do damage tests early on in the game, mostly...

If your Assassin Arisen is STR-Based - "Pure STR Build" - go with Clout, Vehemence, Adhession, Opportunism, Bloodlust & Sinew.
Cheers ...


Oddly enough I was reading bloodlust is no longer the go to specifically for BBI. The amount of night time there is so short, it's not useful ? This could have been false information, but however I appreciate your help friend.


@Ctrlaltdleet , TKU for your kind comment. Yeah, Bloodlust is still a very viable option for our Arisens even in BBI. There have been extensive tests in the past, from old players - waaayyy older than me - and it seems time in BBI passes inconsistenly. That means, for example, that we don't have 40 mins of real time as "day" and another 20 mins of (again) real time as "night". U can have, let's say 45 mins of "day" and 15 mins of "night" in BBI - but that is just an assumption, not hard numbers - and in another instance U can have 35 mins of "Day" and 25 mins of "Night"...

But, since Bloodlust increases both STR & MAG output, it is quite essential for Mystic Knights and Magic Archers. If U play as pure STR - or pure MAG - u can go with Exhilaration or Equanimity instead of Bloodlust, but playing in the "Red Zone" (low health) is quite intolerable for long gaming sessions. And i am not mentioning Autonomy, because most of us don't play without our pawns
... Cheers
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User Info: Olld-Onne

Olld-Onne
3 months ago#7
Single Magick Bow shots are quite deadly in my opinion.
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User Info: Ctrlaltdleet

Ctrlaltdleet
3 months ago#8
Darth-Simous posted...
Ctrlaltdleet posted...
Darth-Simous posted...
Ctrlaltdleet posted...
See that's what I was thinking as well, but I was looking for more concrete evidence. As an assassin I tend to rely mostly on my bow unless fighting climbable enemies.


Greetings, @Ctrlaltdleet . Ferocity indeed affects single bow shots on all Weapons & Bows, alike - ShortBows, Longbows & Magic Bows. But the 10% - per average - it gives a boost to - as to all core skills, is negligible, due to the fact the single bow shots are inneficient to all vocations wielding them. Ferocity has the most effect on Mages & Sorcerers, when using Holy Focused Bolts, due to multi-hit strike - each bolt out of the cluster gets a boost - hence it is best used on Casters.

Difficult to provide "hard data" nowadays, since we most have our Damage Meters MAXed - U can do damage tests early on in the game, mostly...

If your Assassin Arisen is STR-Based - "Pure STR Build" - go with Clout, Vehemence, Adhession, Opportunism, Bloodlust & Sinew.
Cheers ...


Oddly enough I was reading bloodlust is no longer the go to specifically for BBI. The amount of night time there is so short, it's not useful ? This could have been false information, but however I appreciate your help friend.


@Ctrlaltdleet , TKU for your kind comment. Yeah, Bloodlust is still a very viable option for our Arisens even in BBI. There have been extensive tests in the past, from old players - waaayyy older than me - and it seems time in BBI passes inconsistenly. That means, for example, that we don't have 40 mins of real time as "day" and another 20 mins of (again) real time as "night". U can have, let's say 45 mins of "day" and 15 mins of "night" in BBI - but that is just an assumption, not hard numbers - and in another instance U can have 35 mins of "Day" and 25 mins of "Night"...

But, since Bloodlust increases both STR & MAG output, it is quite essential for Mystic Knights and Magic Archers. If U play as pure STR - or pure MAG - u can go with Exhilaration or Equanimity instead of Bloodlust, but playing in the "Red Zone" (low health) is quite intolerable for long gaming sessions. And i am not mentioning Autonomy, because most of us don't play without our pawns
... Cheers


Thank you again and I completely agree about autonomy. Sure if I'm doing UR runs I'll run it, but other than that I enjoy my companionship.
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User Info: Darth-Simous

Darth-Simous
3 months ago#9
Ctrlaltdleet posted...
Darth-Simous posted...
Ctrlaltdleet posted...
Darth-Simous posted...
Ctrlaltdleet posted...
See that's what I was thinking as well, but I was looking for more concrete evidence. As an assassin I tend to rely mostly on my bow unless fighting climbable enemies.


Greetings, @Ctrlaltdleet . Ferocity indeed affects single bow shots on all Weapons & Bows, alike - ShortBows, Longbows & Magic Bows. But the 10% - per average - it gives a boost to - as to all core skills, is negligible, due to the fact the single bow shots are inneficient to all vocations wielding them. Ferocity has the most effect on Mages & Sorcerers, when using Holy Focused Bolts, due to multi-hit strike - each bolt out of the cluster gets a boost - hence it is best used on Casters.

Difficult to provide "hard data" nowadays, since we most have our Damage Meters MAXed - U can do damage tests early on in the game, mostly...

If your Assassin Arisen is STR-Based - "Pure STR Build" - go with Clout, Vehemence, Adhession, Opportunism, Bloodlust & Sinew.
Cheers ...


Oddly enough I was reading bloodlust is no longer the go to specifically for BBI. The amount of night time there is so short, it's not useful ? This could have been false information, but however I appreciate your help friend.


@Ctrlaltdleet , TKU for your kind comment. Yeah, Bloodlust is still a very viable option for our Arisens even in BBI. There have been extensive tests in the past, from old players - waaayyy older than me - and it seems time in BBI passes inconsistenly. That means, for example, that we don't have 40 mins of real time as "day" and another 20 mins of (again) real time as "night". U can have, let's say 45 mins of "day" and 15 mins of "night" in BBI - but that is just an assumption, not hard numbers - and in another instance U can have 35 mins of "Day" and 25 mins of "Night"...

But, since Bloodlust increases both STR & MAG output, it is quite essential for Mystic Knights and Magic Archers. If U play as pure STR - or pure MAG - u can go with Exhilaration or Equanimity instead of Bloodlust, but playing in the "Red Zone" (low health) is quite intolerable for long gaming sessions. And i am not mentioning Autonomy, because most of us don't play without our pawns
... Cheers


Thank you again and I completely agree about autonomy. Sure if I'm doing UR runs I'll run it, but other than that I enjoy my companionship.


@Ctrlaltdleet , U R welcome and i agree as well on the companionship part ... Speaking of which, I took a peek at your pawn recently and i see that U R on Vanilla DD ? Augments on Vanilla don't have a "Damage Cap", and Bloodlust, Equanimity & Exhilaration can get U very high STR & MAG output (again, i don't mention Autonomy), because they weren't "nerfed", as they were in Dark Arisen. I assumed U were on DA at first, due to the BBI & Bloodlust mention ...

BTW, the inconsistent time cycle on BBI was tested by Master
@Ghost_of_Kirin , and posted on an older topic:

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/626514-dragons-dogma/71748685

Still, for an Assassin on DA, i would choose Bloodlust over Ferocity any day (night... XD)

Cheers ...
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User Info: Ctrlaltdleet

Ctrlaltdleet
3 months ago#10
Darth-Simous posted...
Ctrlaltdleet posted...
Darth-Simous posted...
Ctrlaltdleet posted...
Darth-Simous posted...
Ctrlaltdleet posted...
See that's what I was thinking as well, but I was looking for more concrete evidence. As an assassin I tend to rely mostly on my bow unless fighting climbable enemies.


Greetings, @Ctrlaltdleet . Ferocity indeed affects single bow shots on all Weapons & Bows, alike - ShortBows, Longbows & Magic Bows. But the 10% - per average - it gives a boost to - as to all core skills, is negligible, due to the fact the single bow shots are inneficient to all vocations wielding them. Ferocity has the most effect on Mages & Sorcerers, when using Holy Focused Bolts, due to multi-hit strike - each bolt out of the cluster gets a boost - hence it is best used on Casters.

Difficult to provide "hard data" nowadays, since we most have our Damage Meters MAXed - U can do damage tests early on in the game, mostly...

If your Assassin Arisen is STR-Based - "Pure STR Build" - go with Clout, Vehemence, Adhession, Opportunism, Bloodlust & Sinew.
Cheers ...


Oddly enough I was reading bloodlust is no longer the go to specifically for BBI. The amount of night time there is so short, it's not useful ? This could have been false information, but however I appreciate your help friend.


@Ctrlaltdleet , TKU for your kind comment. Yeah, Bloodlust is still a very viable option for our Arisens even in BBI. There have been extensive tests in the past, from old players - waaayyy older than me - and it seems time in BBI passes inconsistenly. That means, for example, that we don't have 40 mins of real time as "day" and another 20 mins of (again) real time as "night". U can have, let's say 45 mins of "day" and 15 mins of "night" in BBI - but that is just an assumption, not hard numbers - and in another instance U can have 35 mins of "Day" and 25 mins of "Night"...

But, since Bloodlust increases both STR & MAG output, it is quite essential for Mystic Knights and Magic Archers. If U play as pure STR - or pure MAG - u can go with Exhilaration or Equanimity instead of Bloodlust, but playing in the "Red Zone" (low health) is quite intolerable for long gaming sessions. And i am not mentioning Autonomy, because most of us don't play without our pawns
... Cheers


Thank you again and I completely agree about autonomy. Sure if I'm doing UR runs I'll run it, but other than that I enjoy my companionship.


@Ctrlaltdleet , U R welcome and i agree as well on the companionship part ... Speaking of which, I took a peek at your pawn recently and i see that U R on Vanilla DD ? Augments on Vanilla don't have a "Damage Cap", and Bloodlust, Equanimity & Exhilaration can get U very high STR & MAG output (again, i don't mention Autonomy), because they weren't "nerfed", as they were in Dark Arisen. I assumed U were on DA at first, due to the BBI & Bloodlust mention ...

BTW, the inconsistent time cycle on BBI was tested by Master
@Ghost_of_Kirin , and posted on an older topic:

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/626514-dragons-dogma/71748685

Still, for an Assassin on DA, i would choose Bloodlust over Ferocity any day (night... XD)

Cheers ...


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