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User Info: chaosflame108

chaosflame108
6 years ago#81
I'm not reading through this, but has someone mentioned the little "easter egg" during mgs4's final boss fight?

During the "Snake eater" portion of the fight, let Ocelot choke you, and he'll kiss snake on the cheek and say in a loving tone...."Snake."

Ocelot is gay, no if's, ands, or buts about it. Not that there's anything wrong with that though.
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User Info: r2lol

r2lol
6 years ago#82
Voted NO coz I'm not sure he's "Gay", yeah sure he's gay for BB, but that doesn't mean he's 100% gay he could be BI, Straight but gay for BB or gay, there was no: "Not sure" option so I went for "NO".
Come on Kojima give us more OCELOT!
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User Info: immortaltech6

immortaltech6
6 years ago#83
The_Ivory_Man posted...
Mr_M0j0_Rising posted...
I think you're gay.

Therefore you must be gay?

Ok then.


EVA cannot trick Raikov and Ocelot.

Wonder why?

And when has a character said what another character's sexuality and been wrong.

Is Vamp not bisexual because Snake says it?


Maybe EVA wasn't attractive enough for him for any number of reasons or the situation didn't call for it in his mind. Just because you might be attracted to any female that walks by because of your own skewed wants doesn't mean everybody else should or is.

User Info: The_Ivory_Man

The_Ivory_Man
6 years ago#84
immortaltech6 posted...
The_Ivory_Man posted...
Mr_M0j0_Rising posted...
I think you're gay.

Therefore you must be gay?

Ok then.


EVA cannot trick Raikov and Ocelot.

Wonder why?

And when has a character said what another character's sexuality and been wrong.

Is Vamp not bisexual because Snake says it?


Maybe EVA wasn't attractive enough for him for any number of reasons or the situation didn't call for it in his mind. Just because you might be attracted to any female that walks by because of your own skewed wants doesn't mean everybody else should or is.


So every other soldier (all straight) could be fooled aside from a gay one and Ocelot..... Hmmm seems like that leads to something along with Ocelot only kissing men.

User Info: DripyButtSponge

DripyButtSponge
6 years ago#85
The_Ivory_Man posted...
immortaltech6 posted...
The_Ivory_Man posted...
Mr_M0j0_Rising posted...
I think you're gay.

Therefore you must be gay?

Ok then.


EVA cannot trick Raikov and Ocelot.

Wonder why?

And when has a character said what another character's sexuality and been wrong.

Is Vamp not bisexual because Snake says it?


Maybe EVA wasn't attractive enough for him for any number of reasons or the situation didn't call for it in his mind. Just because you might be attracted to any female that walks by because of your own skewed wants doesn't mean everybody else should or is.


So every other soldier (all straight) could be fooled aside from a gay one and Ocelot..... Hmmm seems like that leads to something along with Ocelot only kissing men.


Wasn't Ocelot suspicious of EVA? Isn't that why he stated he had no interest in her?

User Info: The_Ivory_Man

The_Ivory_Man
6 years ago#86
DripyButtSponge posted...
The_Ivory_Man posted...
immortaltech6 posted...
The_Ivory_Man posted...
Mr_M0j0_Rising posted...
I think you're gay.

Therefore you must be gay?

Ok then.


EVA cannot trick Raikov and Ocelot.

Wonder why?

And when has a character said what another character's sexuality and been wrong.

Is Vamp not bisexual because Snake says it?


Maybe EVA wasn't attractive enough for him for any number of reasons or the situation didn't call for it in his mind. Just because you might be attracted to any female that walks by because of your own skewed wants doesn't mean everybody else should or is.


So every other soldier (all straight) could be fooled aside from a gay one and Ocelot..... Hmmm seems like that leads to something along with Ocelot only kissing men.


Wasn't Ocelot suspicious of EVA? Isn't that why he stated he had no interest in her?


EVA says she couldn't fool Ocelot before he's suspicious (with the boots and all)

User Info: -MrMojoRisin-

-MrMojoRisin-
6 years ago#87
The_Ivory_Man posted...
EVA says she couldn't fool Ocelot before he's suspicious (with the boots and all)


He's the biggest master manipulator in the entire series. Snake Eater's ending even confirmed he saw through her pathetic disguise probably before he even met her.
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User Info: Shiang

Shiang
6 years ago#88
Hmm.

I wouldn't say that Ocelot is or isn't gay - we haven't seen enough evidence to pinpoint his exact sexuality, and given the spectrum of sexuality it can extremely difficult to identify whether someone is homosexual as opposed to bisexual, pansexual, experimenting, etc. We have a lot of speculation with no firm answers.

I would say that Ocelot's interest in Big Boss is sexual. At the very least, it verges on being sexual; those of you who deny that Ocelot is gay may agree with this. He reveres Big Boss, and though it may just be genuine hero-worship there does seem to be a very strong sexual undertone to it. Examples of that sexual undertone are:

Eva commenting and comparing Ocelot and Raikov. By juxtaposing them we can see their similarities as well as their differences.

Ocelot's line "We have John - I mean, Snake, to thank for that". This one interests me, because it was a genuine slip, but it revealed that Ocelot was thinking of Snake by his name and thus in far more intimate terms - be that friendship or sexual - than two soldiers would normally think of each other whilst on their missions.

The kiss on the cheek and the restoration of the psyche gauge. This one speaks for itself.

The fact that Ocelot seems to show off a lot when Big Boss is around. His revolver techniques become more showy, his drawl is a little more pronounced, and from what few trailers I've seen, he seems to wear decidedly more revealing clothing if Big Boss is there - like having his shirt closed in one shot, away from BB, and then open the next when he's standing next to BB.

So. Regardless of Ocelot's sexuality, he has an obsessive interest in BB that even in a conservative opinion verges on being sexual.
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User Info: James Mason

James Mason
6 years ago#89
My semi-serious list of evidence. Some of them are there for humor's sake...

1 - He's a cowboy with a pornstache ... Ok this one is kinda a joke, but still...
2 - He loves slamming bullets into well greased chambers.
3 - Younger, he loved doing wierd hand gestures and wearing a beret. He's got some style !
4 - He meows like a cat to call his unit. MEOWWWW .
5 - He's absolutely infatuated by Big Boss to the point of centering his whole life on trying to get him to wake up from his coma / to continue his dream of a world devoid of the Patriots / working for anything that reminds me of Big Boss.
6 - He 'Has no interest in that woman" and seems insulted that Volgin even insinuates that he could have any sexual desire for Tatyana.
7 - He's the protegé of Volgin, an overtly Bi-Sexual masochist, and he hangs in company of Raikov and Eva, both sex slaves of said Volgin.
8 - Eva heavily insinuates he doesn't care about woman, and that Big Boss might be more of his thing, the exact same way she insinuates that Raikov is not interested in woman.
9 - Everytime he can get close to one of the Big Boss clones, he goes the extra mile to be the man of the situation ... Serving under Liquid and Solidus because they remind him of the Boss.
10 - When he has Solid Snake in a chokehold with his genitals rubbing on Snake's, the only thing that comes into his mind is "I should give him a tender kiss on the cheek", and his psyche is restored for doing so...
11 - Did he have to torture raiden naked ?

Anyway, that's about it.

Guess it's hard to tell since Kojima loves to make his main characters ambiguous. I mean, Big Boss has a naked shower chokehold fight with Kaz, you can have sex with Miller in a side ops...And the Snake / Otacon relationship has always been kinda wierd at times, especially with them adopting a child XD...

Personally, I think Ocelot is infatuated with Big Boss. He might not be openly gay, I think he's more of a repressed, let's torture people instead of having sex kind of guy. I guess he would be happy getting punched in the face by Big Boss for all eternity.

In the end , the only thing that could be interpreted as him being interested in woman is the "Torture, and things even worse than that... Between the pain and the shame" lines from Meryl, that seem to hint at rape, but it could be so many things... I mean eating your own poop while listening to 35 hours of Nyan Cat would fit the bill too... Heck, I think a man that has disgust for woman could be particularly good at degrading them and doing things that were worse than torture to them.
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User Info: NEKORODEO

NEKORODEO
6 years ago#90
I think Ocelot transcends labels and is so committed to his work that he is whatever he needs to be to complete his objectives.
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