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User Info: Anketam

Anketam
7 years ago#31
I can confirm that the following items give 0 Rarity Points (that or they offer 1/10 or less RP of an Iron):
Fodder
Scrap Metal
Amethyst
Stick
Weeds
Withered Grass
Rock
Branch

So I think for now Iron should be good enough to base our rarity scale on. You want to make a nice pretty post on the RF4 Forging/Crafting/Cooking Mechanic Compilation thread about these findings?
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User Info: Kirbye2006

Kirbye2006
7 years ago#32
I think it's also safe to say non-upgrade items such as weapons and seeds have 0 RP too.

As for the Compilation, we'll get around to getting the info in there soon (even though it'll be hidden on the 2nd page), but I'm wondering what would be an efficient way to test for the RP of a material? It's one thing to say it exists, it's another thing to be able to show the most efficient way to utilize the knowledge, which means we need to be able to test easily what the RP of an unknown material is.
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User Info: Anketam

Anketam
7 years ago#33
I have a set of swords with varying RP from 9 to 24. I just plug in the material and cycle through the swords in order till I get a hit. We also know it tracks with the difficulty/when you get the item in the game, so I normally can estimate where on that scale to start and from there I do a binary like search. If you want me to compile a master list I can, but it will take some time.
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Kirbye2006
7 years ago#34
I think the most useful data RP-wise would be the data for some Crops. Crops can already be bought at level 10, so if we figure out good crops to use for upgrading the Rarity, then the simplest useful application of the data would be to make the "700 Attack weapon" even better.
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User Info: Anketam

Anketam
7 years ago#35
Understood, I have pretty much every crop and their giant variations in my fridge. I already have finished doing: Minerals, Collectibles, Jewels, and Scales. I will begin doing the fridge from the top. It will take me a moment to find a good sorted list to quickly write down the numbers.
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Kirbye2006
7 years ago#36
As a side note, I just now figured out that Medicine works towards the RP bonus. Love Potion gives 13 RP, and Antidote Potion gives 7 RP.

And here's the small crop list I have so far:
Corn: 4 RP
Apple: 5 RP
Onion: 6 RP
Milk (L): 6 RP
Pineapple: 8 RP
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Anketam
7 years ago#37
Vegetables
Cabbage - 6
Pink Turnip - 3
Pink Melon - 7
Onion - 6
Pumpkin - 3
Cucumber - 3
Corn - 4
Tomato - 7
Eggplant - 5
Yam - 3
Potato - 1
Carrot - 4
Green Pepper - 5
Spinach - 1
Turnip - 0
Radish - 2
Leek - 5
Bok Choy - 6
Hot-Hot Fruit - 5
Golden Cabbage - 9
Golden Pumpkin - 9
Golden Potato - 9
Golden Turnip - 10
Bamboo Sprout - 0

Mushrooms
Mushroom - 0

Fruit
Grape - 5
Apple - 5
Orange - 5
Strawberry - 4
Pineapple - 8

I also did all the large variations of each and they all were +4 higher. So a Large Golden Pumpkin would be 13. I also went ahead and tried the Large Emery Flower because I was not going to wait and it came in at 15
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Anketam
7 years ago#38
Plant
Toyherb - 0
Moondrop - 1
Elli Leaves - 10
Pink Cat - 2
Charm Blue - 3
Cherry Grass - 3
Lamp Grass - 4
Blue Crystal - 8
Emery Flower - 10
Ironleaf - 4
4-Leaf Clover - 4
Fireflower - 6
Green Crystal - 8
Noel Grass - 6
Autumn Grass - 5
Pom-Pom Grass - 4
Red Crystal - 8
White Crystal - 8
Medicinal Herb - 0
Antidotal Herb - 0
Black Grass - 3
Orange Grass - 7
Red Grass - 6
Yellow Grass - 5
Blue Grass - 0
Green Grass - 0
Purple Grass - 1
Indigo Grass - 4
White Grass - 8
Weeds - 0
Withered Grass - 0
Ayngondaia Lawn - 5

And like with the crops the large versions are +4 more with the exception of Emery Flower. Its large version is 15 not 14. I do not have a Monarch Mushroom or Mealy Apple in my trove so I could not quickly look up their numbers.

Collectibles
Fodder - 0
Scrap Metal - 0
Double Steel - 5
10-Fold Steel - 10
Glitta Augite - 8
Invisible Stone - 5
Light Ore - 13
Rune Sphere Shard - 15
Shade Stone - 6
Raccoon Leaf - 10
Icy Nose - 15
Big Bird's Comb - 10
Rafflesia Petal - 9
Cursed Doll - 6
Warrior's Proof - 13
Proof of Rank - 13
Throne of the Empire - 14
White Stone - 13

Jewels
Amethyst - 0
Aquamarine - 2
Emerald - 5
Ruby - 7
Sapphire - 8
Diamond - 11
Green Core - 13
Red Core - 13
Yellow Core - 13
Blue Core - 13
Crystal Skull - 15

Minerals
Iron - 1
Scrap Metal+ - 2
Bronze - 4
Silver - 7
Gold - 9
Platinum - 12
Orichalcum - 13
Dragonic Stone - 15

Scales
Wet Scale - 11
Dragon Scale - 14
Crimson Scale - 14
Blue Scale - 14
Glitter Scale - 14
Love Scale - 14
Black Scale - 14
Grimoire Scale - 15
Firewyrm Scale - 15
Earthwyrm Scale - 15
Legendary Scale - 15

That is all I am doing tonight. I will generate more numbers tomorrow.
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User Info: Dork_Vader

Dork_Vader
7 years ago#39
Wow, went away from the boards for a day or so and huge breakthrough, excellent work!
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Dork_Vader
7 years ago#40
So, keeping in mind that I'm not sure what the RP of a few things are: Small/Large/Rune Crystal, Wind Dragon Fang, Water Dragon Fin, Dragon Powders, and assuming for the slots that allow you to pick from a category you are able to use an item with 15 RP, here is a breakdown of the base RP for some of the top weapons you can craft:

Short Sword
Gladius: 15 + 15 + 14 + 8~15 + 15 = 69~74 of 75
Rune Legend: 15 + 15 + 10~15 + 13 + 10~15 = 63~73 of 75
Rune Blade: 15 + 15 + 10~15 + 15 + 15 = 60~75 of 75

Long Sword
Caliburn: 15 + 10~15 + 10~15 + 15 + 15 = 65~75 of 75

Spear
Legion: 15 + 15 + 10~15 + 13 + 15 = 69~74 of 75

Hammer
Fatal Crush: 10~15 + 14 + 15 + 15 + 15 + 15 = 84~89 of 90
Splash Star: 15 + 10~15 + 10~15 + 15 + 15 = 65~75 of 75

Axe
Saint Axe: 15 + 12 + 13 + 8~15 + 10~15 = 58~70 of 75

Dual Blade
Twin Justice: 15 + 15 + 10~15 + 10~15 + 10~15 = 60~75 of 75

Fists
Fenrir: 15+ 10~15 + 10~15 + 10~15 + 10~15 = 55~75 of 75
Katar: 15 + 15 + 15 + 15 + 15 = 75 of 75

Staff
Sorceror Wand: 15 + 10~15 + 10~15 + 8~15 + 10~15 = 53~75 of 75

I left off recipes that started too low on base stats or used a bunch of items with low RP, like the Heaven Asunder, as I assumed the dragon dust/powder things aren't worth as much as the scales and it uses 3 of them, so if they are only 8 or 10 each that would only be 54~60 of 75 possible.

Naturally the 6th slot for 5 piece recipes could have another 15 RP item added in so I left that out of the tally.
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