Why oh why does the Bishop class suck so hard?

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User Info: TSDx

TSDx
8 years ago#11
lol first playtester? any chance on a fix then, or am I stuck as a bishop? If Mina is broken, then Tiberon might be broken as well (I have him up to level 8 serpent knight).

I haven't seen the Saint stats yet, but from what I HAVE seen, Archmage is a freaking beast and quite possibly the best class now. 33 attack, 24 defense, and all those spells? Not to mention 9/2 on the revision? God tier.

User Info: TSDx

TSDx
8 years ago#12
I just powerleveled Tib to see if the same thing happens to him, and it does. he resets to level 9 SK after hitting level 10

User Info: ZSJesse

ZSJesse
8 years ago#13
I think the creators put the class there so a person wouldn't be able to trap themselves in a neverending loop from Cleric to Warlock and back, etc.
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User Info: Amuseum

Amuseum
8 years ago#14
There are two different warlocks, so that would never happen.

Arch mage does look overpowered. Maybe drop them back to the original values or something closer so that they rely on their troops and spells rather than dueling.
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User Info: Amuseum

Amuseum
8 years ago#15
Tiberon's new Knight class is actually Garett's, which means he can also be a Grand Knight. That also needs to be tested.
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User Info: TSDx

TSDx
8 years ago#16
I'll gladly test for you, but the class change paths seem broken and keep resetting.

User Info: HailBlazR

HailBlazR
8 years ago#17
"I mean, why promote Mina to a bishop instead of a Wizard, so she can get Ranger...?"

"Better than anything the guys have."

"Better question, why promote Mina to a warlock instead of a priest? High Priestess and Saint are some of the best classes in the game; High Priestess for her healing 3 and uber defensive powers, and Saint for her uber offensive powers and + 9A + 4D to her troops..."

"What if you want to play offensively? You can get to Archmage very quickly. Priestess takes a very long to level."

In response to your first point, sure, bishop is better than most knight classes, but if Mina has a better option readily available... why not just take that instead? Makes a lot more sense.

Saint is so much better than anything that Archmage can do. Higher stats, best revision bonuses in the game, awesome spells...

Anyway I don't think Treco meant for the bishop class to fail so badly, but this was an old game. Still a great one, but it had its errors and issues, this being one of them.

User Info: Amuseum

Amuseum
8 years ago#18
i fixed the promotions for serpent knight -> dragon knight and bishop -> saint. i only tested serpent knight, no time to test bishop, but it should work the same.

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User Info: TSDx

TSDx
8 years ago#19
Alright Amuseum I'll give it a go.

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TSDx
8 years ago#20
Both Tiberon and Mina promoted. Tib from SK to DK and Mina from Bishop to Saint.

That being said, I wouldn't even take Mina saint anymore, since the Archmage is superior now in almost every way.

Saint gets a heal, and 2 more D on revision, but the Archmage has more mana and fireball 2 is the same as tornado, plus earthquake. It also has 33 attack.
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