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User Info: chaoyun2k

chaoyun2k
4 weeks ago#1
One of the recent changes to the Answers sections is showing when the last answer was given for a question instead of showing how many answers a question has received.

I'm just wondering if some of the other people answering questions find this change beneficial in some way.

The one thing I can think of is if there is a plan to consolidate recent and unresolved questions into one section.

What are your thoughts?
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User Info: ZeoKnight

ZeoKnight
4 weeks ago#2
chaoyun2k posted...
One of the recent changes to the Answers sections is showing when the last answer was given for a question instead of showing how many answers a question has received.

Please also take note that now answers can be commented, and last week GameFAQs redesigned both https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/answers/myasked and https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/answers/myanswered so that all of the games are showing on one page rather than clicking through the individual consoles.

I'm just wondering if some of the other people answering questions find this change beneficial in some way.

I couldn't care less. Neither the amount of answers nor the latest given answer has beneficial effect to me. In the past I wanted to answer a question because I was sure about the answer and not because of any other factor.

if there is a plan to consolidate recent and unresolved questions into one section.

It makes sense if GameFAQs puts sorting order to the "Last Answered" column.
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User Info: Eevee-Trainer

Eevee-Trainer
4 weeks ago#3
chaoyun2k posted...
I'm just wondering if some of the other people answering questions find this change beneficial in some way.

The main benefit IMO is that all the unanswered questions in a category get lumped together. For games that have a s***ton of unresolved questions - but they're unresolved not for a lack of answers, but a lack of answers being accepted - it makes it easier to figure out which questions need answering.

(That's not to say that the answered questions necessarily have sufficient answers of course.)

ZeoKnight posted...
It makes sense if GameFAQs puts sorting order to the "Last Answered" column.

Looks like they just did that. (Ergo my comment above.)

ZeoKnight posted...
Please also take note that now answers can be commented, and last week GameFAQs redesigned both https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/answers/myasked and https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/answers/myanswered so that all of the games are showing on one page rather than clicking through the individual consoles.

There's also the redesign for the "Top Experts" stuff, if you want to go back to stuff from a month or so ago. I was actually thinking of making a topic like this last night because of all the changes.

Still think it would have more impact if the site announced the changes instead of having silent roll outs though.
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User Info: chaoyun2k

chaoyun2k
4 weeks ago#4
Eevee-Trainer posted...
Still think it would have more impact if the site announced the changes instead of having silent roll outs though.

I agree.

ZeoKnight posted...
Please also take note that now answers can be commented, and last week GameFAQs redesigned both https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/answers/myasked and https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/answers/myanswered so that all of the games are showing on one page rather than clicking through the individual consoles.

Yeah I couldn't miss that.

The only thing about the https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/answers/recent page is that you have to scroll through all the questions to get to some of the older systems. It will only be worse if the recent and unresolved are consolidated, unless the break continues to be 2 months and that list stays as it is.

ZeoKnight posted...
It makes sense if GameFAQs puts sorting order to the "Last Answered" column.

Yeah, and it puts all the unanswered together by section so that makes it easier to find those.
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User Info: Eevee-Trainer

Eevee-Trainer
4 weeks ago#5
Also a few thoughts:

- We need a feature to edit our Answers posts. Seems silly to have to remove and repost when we make a typo or whatever, when that's not the case on the boards.

- We need to remove that stupid filter that prevents us from posting links. I often like to link to Serebii or Bulbapedia or Smogon as references when it comes to discussions of mechanics or other stuff in Pokemon, which is simply too in-depth and dynamic to have to retype each and every time. And god forbid you need a map. >_> It's not like the filter even really prevents what it should. You could argue it's meant to prevent harmful links but the filter only looks for "http://" or "https://" - or something in that vein - so it's easy enough to trim it off. Or that it's meant to prevent you from linking to that "let me Google that for you" site - which again is easily circumvented.

I don't know. I don't get its purpose.
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User Info: Devin Morgan

Devin Morgan
4 weeks ago#6
Eevee-Trainer posted...
- We need to remove that stupid filter that prevents us from posting links. I often like to link to Serebii or Bulbapedia or Smogon as references when it comes to discussions of mechanics or other stuff in Pokemon, which is simply too in-depth and dynamic to have to retype each and every time. And god forbid you need a map. >_> It's not like the filter even really prevents what it should. You could argue it's meant to prevent harmful links but the filter only looks for "http://" or "https://" - or something in that vein - so it's easy enough to trim it off. Or that it's meant to prevent you from linking to that "let me Google that for you" site - which again is easily circumvented.

Answers is not meant to be used as a forum for discussion (we have message boards for that). The new "comment on anything" functionality is meant to be used in specific situations where you have something relevant to add to an existing answer. A pretty good example of this in action would be Stack Overflow. Comments do not count as answers (which means no badge for them). The example I gave to someone else was if an answer is no longer valid due to the game being patched, then it would be very appropriate to comment on the answer stating as much. If it becomes apparent certain people are using it as a means to get their word in on already-answered questions, for example, then we will have to make further adjustments/restrictions.

The original thinking behind blocking URLs is that if your answer is going to consist of telling someone to go to another site, then it's a pretty useless answer. If you're implying that you've been bypassing it all along, that is _technically_ against the rules... >_>

Obviously we are spending a bit of time modernizing and improving Answers lately. If there is something you'd like to see happen, this might as well be the place to suggest away. Not just functionality, but how lists are displayed, what we display, and so forth.
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User Info: chaoyun2k

chaoyun2k
4 weeks ago#7
Devin Morgan posted...
The example I gave to someone else was if an answer is no longer valid due to the game being patched, then it would be very appropriate to comment on the answer stating as much.

I hope that this will include a notification to the person that asked the question and the person that answered the question if that answer was accepted or was the top voted at least.
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User Info: Eevee-Trainer

Eevee-Trainer
4 weeks ago#8
Devin Morgan posted...
The original thinking behind blocking URLs is that if your answer is going to consist of telling someone to go to another site, then it's a pretty useless answer.

Even if the source in question is reputable, and the information itself not at all easily represented in a plain-text post? That doesn't really make any sense.

Obviously, yes, the essentials can and should be posted - which is generally what I do, same as the philosophy on Stack Exchange - but including a link to the source of the info or as a "the full details are here" sort of thing can be far more helpful to the reader in the right cases, and is just courteous to the source.

A common example I find - people trying to evolve Pokemon through their Friendship/Happiness stat, but it's not evolving, and they want to know why. The obvious course of action is to figure out where the Pokemon's Happiness stat is (usually a person in the game gives you a range, implicitly), and then figure out how to maximize their gains in the stat. The problem being what is optimal simply depends on where in the game you are and how hard you are willing (or need to) work for it.

Even in the Generation III games, what works best when is a mess to decipher: https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Friendship#In_Generation_III

At least Bulbapedia has the ability to present it all in a somewhat organized table, and someone reading it can reasonably decipher what's the best course of action for them. (Yes obviously the general course of action would probably be "abuse the game clock and get massages and whatever" but that assumes the person in question is willing to do so, and is at the point in the game where that's feasible. Neither are a guarantee.)

And we're simply screwed if someone wants the general mechanics underlying ... well, anything in a remotely-complicated RPG, as an example. The Answers section is not really a good place to go into detail on damage formulas, stat growth stuff, and goodness knows what else at length, owing to the limited post size (at least Stack Exchange has a cap of ... 30 or 60 KB, I forget which, as opposed to 4), and the sheer effort in basically rehashing info other people have already done, both deeper and in a more legible format.

Or, heck, what if someone actually wants a link to something, be it a walkthrough (whether or not one exists on this site), password generator, some kind of save editor, or whatever? What then? Are we supposed to leave them alone? Report them and tell them to basically bug off without giving them (and future askers) an answer - something which would arguably take more effort than simply handing them the link in the first place?

In light of what you mentioned, I don't think that the "no links" demand was made in foresight of what people could feasibly ask for on this site, in foresight of the intricate details people would want to understand about games, or in foresight of how popular and detailed fansites and wikis and all sorts of other efforts like those would become. I'd argue it's by and large time for that to change.
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User Info: Devin Morgan

Devin Morgan
4 weeks ago#9
chaoyun2k posted...
I hope that this will include a notification to the person that asked the question and the person that answered the question if that answer was accepted or was the top voted at least.

At this time we don't send any notifications for any commentary unless it's a comment on the question's initial message. We felt that would be annoying if say someone comments on a random answer, and you get a notification, then you add a comment and everyone above you on that "thread" got a notification too, and so on. Basically it works the same as the old "clarification request" which we sent a notification to the asker about.

Also worth noting, we now send notifications if any of your messages (or questions) get moderated by our staff. Previously they were just deleted and that's it.

Eevee-Trainer posted...
Stuff

Maybe it is time. We'll see. You way over-explained your stance by the way. :)

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Eevee-Trainer
4 weeks ago#10
Devin Morgan posted...
Maybe it is time. We'll see. You way over-explained your stance by the way. :)

Don't trawl through my Math Stack Exchange posts then :p

To be honest that borderline rant had like 3 paragraphs extra - particular examples and such rather than a broad brush - but I decided to cut them out because even that was unnecessary, even for me.

Oh well. Glad to know you'll at least consider it. ^_^
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