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1 month ago#181
As for owning the cars in garages and driveways, there are a few things. One things is the car on the mainland doesn't actually seem to fit what I was talking about. The parking lot you pay for seems to be more of a parking area rather than a personal garage or driveway. As for the one on the island, Idk anything about the island, so I can't say anything here. I know for most people in the US in many of the places I've been to, people can and will park on the curb in front of houses if possible. And if people would rather have more house or yard, they could modify the house to fit those needs. Or buy it like that or whatever... They could even shorten it to have just enough room for the car, saving a bunch of land. Many different things. I have no idea of that's an option for you there. But based on this, you probably wouldn't for the majority who are fine owning a car and would rather not pay a ton for having to basically rent a car (or multiple cars) daily. Or having to keep a car all day, which would probably cost extra. Makes more sense to just own a car. And speaking of the subscriptions, it probably wouldn't be a flat rate. Because distance and stuff matters (like with Ubers or Taxis). And if it was a flat rate, it'd probably be way too high for it to be cheap enough that people would want to pay it... So the people who can't own a car would be better off using public transport, which actually can be pretty cheap in certain areas. Much cheaper than an Uber subscription would most likely be... And waiting on a bus that's on a schedule might be better than waiting on a car, especially if they are all busy when you call for one. And if they aren't because the road's flooded with them, then you'll still be waiting for a while because of nearly stand still traffic. You may even be waiting longer...

And I literally said, "I'm going to be using future tense since they aren't common and in every store, so they are still a future tech as of right now." And they aren't common or in a bunch of stores. That's why I'm still calling it future tech. Most people won't be able to afford it. Hence why I call it future tech. And that's a reply to post #167 quote 4, since you're proven you don't understand context clues or remember anything you post... And it seems like it can barely do anything? That's why I'm asking what it can do. It has that weird hand to pick up nuts, and a vaccum attachment. Can it do stuff other than pick up small items and vacuum? And, like I said earlier, it didn't seem as autonomous as it should have been in a video I saw. The guy bumped a table. But instead of it taking a picture and repositioning itself, it got sad and had to wait for the guys to make it do that. Which seems less autonomous, tbh. And means it would need someone watching it, or checking up on it often... And you just said, "At the moment? Yes. This is still early days for those sorts of robots." Which means I was right when I said it was future tech as it still doesn't actually work the way it's supposed to... I was calling it future tech because it's not common or anything. But it's literally future tech since it doesn't even work the way it's supposed to yet...

As for the roombas, I'm not the one mixing up arguments. You are. My argument has been the same. You literally kept talking about paying the robots. And that was never the issue. The issue is that you would still pay for the robots. Or pay the owners of the robots. You're the only one who brought up paying the roomba like a vending the machine. The whole point is that the roomba that's created by automation still cost money because you have to buy it. Never was I talking about paying a roomba to clean my house. Or paying the robots themselves (unless there were cashier robots, but that's still paying the business and not the robot). It was always about buying the roomba, and paying for the robots. You were the only one talking my about paying Johnny 5 for his services instead of his owner... We can't move on unless you understand that...

And there's not more free s***. We get free samples of stuff. But there's not that much free s***. Most stuff cost money, even if it doesn't cost us money. Or cost something other than money, like information...When I'm talking about free s***, I'm talking about physical free s***. You said that with automation, then stuff robots make will be free. So how come all the physical s*** robots make cost money. And cost about the same amount as when humans made them? My point of view makes sense in the real world. Your point of view is the one in a magical world where everything in free for literally no reason other than that's what you want. Mine is based in the real world where s*** cost money because human need money to survive.

Also, you seem to be assuming that the store will be selling items at half price. But there's literally no proof of that. Having robots doesn't mean everything in your store is cheaper. You don't price you merchandise based on your workers. You base it on the cost of the items you buy. You understand that's how s*** it priced, right? Just because you have robots doesn't mean the items in your store are cheaper. They will most likely be the same price the other store's since you both probably paid the same for them. Store gets items and mark up the price. No workers to pay just means bigger profits for the owners since you have no workers to pay... So the only person wrong here is you...

And not everything you listed is free. But we can go through the list again if you want...

-Music: Youtube have a bunch of music put up by other people who probably should put it up. And it's not free, as the original poster had to buy it from somewhere. And youtube is on the internet, which cost money...

-Pictures: They cannot get you pictures on whatever subject you want. Like pictures of a specific person might not be available. Or pictures of something that doesn't exist might not be available. Also, you could be stealing. Many people watermark their work so that people can't use it without permission. Some are also supposed to be available only on certain sites with permission, but people will buy them and put them up for free for other people to use, even when they aren't actually supposed to. Which is a form of theft. And again, the internet isn't free... And obviously, photos from like cameras and stuff aren't free... And whether you're paying for the material of the photo, it's still not free. That's the whole point. It needs to be free to fit your narrative, and it's not since the materials cost something. That's like saying food is free because you're paying for the materials and not the actual food. And while not everyone needs hard copies of their photos, many like to have them. To give out and stuff... There's a lot of things not everyone needs...

-Videos: No. They are paid for by the ads, so they aren't free. They are paid for us. Like I say later (in the porn part), just because someone else paid for my food doesn't mean it's free. It just means someone else paid for them. And again, not even all the videos can be paid for from the ads. They have many things which you need Youtube Red to watch. And some stuff you still need to buy or rent to watch. So, not free...

-Email: It cost information. So, not nothing. Just a different form of currency. And that a pretty dangerous form of currency to just be giving away... So, it cost something... Which can actually be pretty dangerous, too. Information given away like that has probably helped many people to get scammed... Especially the older folks who don't/didn't understand email all that well...
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1 month ago#182
-Depends on where you go for stories. Some are free. But not everything is online for free. And many of the ones that are might basically be stolen since it shouldn't be online for free. And again, it's not all of them. For you to say stuff is free, it would need to be all. That's like if I wanted to read a book, but the only thing online was fanfiction of the book I wanted to read and not the book. When I say free, I'm talking about everything free. Not something I don't want. Because then the free doesn't matter...

-TV Shows: The ones online are pirated, so illegal. And all the illegal stuff online (not just tv shows, but everything) doesn't count into the free pile. Because then you can say anything is free if you steal it. But that doesn't mean it's free. Just means that you stole it. And most of the free stuff online seems like it wasn't supposed to be free. Especially if it's also on a pay streaming site... And also, having a few free samples isn't the same as something being free... Which I believe I also explain below (porn part, again)...

-Videos Games: I still see no proof against what I said. And steam also has a ton of not free games to counter the free ones. Not only that, but steam isn't the only platform. There's Microsoft, Sony, and Nintendo. And when you compare all the game that cost money (even a couple bucks) the free ones, My point of games are rarely free still stands. So, are you going to post an argument? Or are you just trying to say that you know I'm right? And that's still only a small sample size. And not usually big named systems. And if you don't have steam, most games that you could get for free aren't available anymore... And the price has recently risen (because it literally has). They went from $60 to $70 for most games. And I don't see what it "being cheaper than it ever has been" matters. That means it still cost money... And it's cheaper only due to inflation. But the actually amount has gone up for most since many people are making the same they were before the prices went up...

-For porn, there's that quoting out of context again. What I said was, "Porn is free... on certain sites. Many do have cost, like a subscription. Even the free ones. You don't have to pay it, but then you don't get all the videos. It's like a free sample at a store. It's large one, but still..." you quotes the first part, and tried to pretend I agreed when I didn't. So, no. We are not in agreement. Like I said, it's like a free sample. A large one, though. Just because I can get a free sample of food at the store doesn't mean food is all free now. So, don't play that s*** acting like I agreed with you.

-Online Forum & Social Media: Again, they are selling your info, so not free. Just a different currency you're paying. Though, the site makes money from it...

-Podcast: I didn't agree with you. You just quoted out of context again. My actual post said, "Podcast are free... If they're on a free service. Some have moved to a paid service, and are only free if someone puts them somewhere else." So good job lying, I guess...

-Video Conferencing: I can't check because I don't use them. But I did ask Google and apparently, they have a plan that cost money from what I read... Like Zoom has a payment thing. And Skype is only free to other Skype accounts. But cost money when not to Skype. Even oovoo has something you pay for. Not sure what it is. But I don't really use them, so I can't check. But the internet says they cost money...

-The Internet: Not all internet plans are that low. I live in a city where one company has a monopoly and charges a lot more for the basic internet plan. Though, most people here game and don't have the basic one. But the basic one is nowhere near $30 a month. And even my family who lives in a place with more competition don't have internet prices that low. And in the end, it doesn't matter if it's $30 or $300. The fact is IT'S NOT FREE. And that's the whole point...

The biggest point to take away is that even if we aren't paying with money, they are still get money off of us. Or from other people. For example, when I go to restaurants, people would sometimes pay for my meal. So, while I got the food for "free", it wasn't actually free. Someone else paid for it. It's the same for things that have ads. The ads are paying for whatever you looking at like videos or on a site. So, not free...

Also, about the free stuff, the best part is I noticed that all this doesn't even matter as it doesn't even have anything to do with what I was originally talking about. I was saying how things would already be free if all it took was being automated. But most of the stuff you mentioned isn't even automated, so it doesn't even work for all the stuff you put. And not free most of the time, as mentioned above. Like porn with real people is usually made by people. Podcast are usually people talking. Games, stories, and music are also normally made by people. So, not even automated, which means they don't even have anything to do with what I was even talking about. And since they are already making money for those free things, they don't have to charge us (or all of us, since some people will pay the cost for everyone in the form of things like Patreon). Until they aren't making money, or want more...

And in the end, they are making money by selling you info. So, while it doesn't cost you money, you are still paying for it. Kind of like it you paid for you groceries with a tv. The groceries aren't free because you gave them a tv. You just paid with someone else valuable... And again, the internet isn't free... So, I'll ask again. Did you bump your head? Or are you straight up lying by acting like all of this is free? Because this stuff isn't free. It all has a price. Most money or information. And then the information is sold for money... And free options are just free samples. But as I explained earlier, just because a store isn't giving out free samples, it doesn't mean the food is all free. Just a sample. Not to mention, you straight up took a few of my post out of context like a dirty little liar. And as I said earlier, we're talking about legally free. Not, "I stole it, so it's free." So, there's also that... So I actually didn't admit you were right. And the one thing I couldn't tell you about, I found out actually does have cost. You're too blind to see that taking post out of context and having only a sample of free stuff doesn't mean that stuff is all free... So, again, did you bump you head?

I may have said I think I meant plant, but that's because I'm like 99.99% sure I did. It's possible I was thinking of something else. But I can assure you that I wasn't thinking of plate unless I was thinking of "plate of food". But it was most likely plant. Like I said earlier, you don't "grow" plates. Why you thought I meant plates, I'll never know... Even if you thought I meant plate of food, that would have made sense. But just plates... Idk... So, still a stronger argument than anything you made. And not everyone knows how to hunt, or has the equipment or skills to do so. Plus, it has to be something in season. And you would still have to get it before someone else does. If everyone was out there doing it, you'd have a lot less luck. Then you also have to know how to butcher it. You can go to a butcher, but that cost money. So, most people buy meat from someone that's already killed it and butchered it all up. Which would still cost money if a robot did it. Though, most stores will probably continue to serve farmed animals, which will still cost something since they bought it from the farmer, who's happy to make a bigger profit since he has robots doing his work, while he rakes in the money...
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1 month ago#183
And basic economics seems to have gone over your head. What makes you think other farmers will sell cheaper. Or that people will be willing to buy from the others. Many places only source from the same places because they trust those places. Also, why would anyone else sell them cheaper. You do realize that farmers have to make a profit, as well, right? They still have to pay a lot of stuff. Like everything that bought for the animal (like feed), and pay for vet bills, and other things like the butchering of the animal. Just because robots are working the farm doesn't mean all those bills go away. It just means the farmer doesn't have to do all the work. They may not even have any farm hands. I know many farms in my area where it's a family thing. You seem to think having robots just means things are cheaper and free, but that's not how the world works. They will still have to buy the same amount of feed, and get the same shots. That doesn't change. And if the amount they spend to keep the raise the animals is the same, they'll have the same price to sell the animals when they're ready... That's why the farmer has no reason to lower his prices. So, that's why I asked why it would be cheaper for the people buying it from them? The answer is, it wouldn't be. Because having robots might not even lower their cost. It might just mean the farmer and their family won't have to work as hard. But the animals will still need food and shots... And if anything, they would have to sell it more to actually make more money to pay for the robot... Before telling someone else that basic economic is going over their head, make sure you understand it first... I live in a farming town, so this stuff is pretty common here... You can keep saying whatever you want about the robots doing the work, but you're still wrong. The robots are doing the work because the farmer owns them. Or is renting them. So, the food will still belong to the farmer, who sells them to be sold to us. They will always cost money. And if the farmer is renting the robots, they'll cost more money since it'll be like paying farm hands, since they'll have to pay whoever owns the robots. If the farmer owns them, then the food might stay the same price, unless he tries to make his money back faster to help pay for the robots... So you're the only one who's wrong here...

I don't remember what a string is. I wrote that after watching a short tutorial. But that was a while ago. But I don't know why I have to tell you what a string is. You obviously know I'm right and you're mad that I understood that you can have different playstyles in Go. And the reason "playing aggressively" matter in the context of an AI is because it's different than playing a different way. Like playing passively. They are two different play styles. Just like a human might play differently depending on how their opponent plays, the AI plays different depending on how their opponent plays. It's pretty basic knowledge. Like how is Chess, sometimes, a person has to play defensively when another person has got them on the run. Same thing in Go, but what's considered playing aggressively or passively is different.

And again, read the rest of the post, and you'll get context. Why do you take one sentence, ask for context, and then pass over the next couple of sentences that give context? Act like an adult, keep reading, and maybe context will be provided. You quote the past the said, "As for video games, I don't see them every trying to do that." Reading more would give you, "As for video games, I don't see them every trying to do that. Just taking other games and smooshing them together..." So, based on the context of the next sentence, and how I feel about AI (and what I said before), I context clues would most likely point to I don't think they'll be making a lot of new games. I feel they'll just take a bunch of games and smoosh them together... Even when other developers use ides from other games, they don't just smoosh games together to make a new one. It's usually inserted well, depending on the game and developers. Like taking an idea from a game and making it better. Or maybe they take two games, and insert them in a way that makes sense instead of just taking both games, cramming them together, and seeing what comes out... I feel that's one of the differences between human-made games, and AI-made games.

I don't think the ones letting the AI help with be "hobbyist. I think that will be their job. And it's fine if the AI helps. As long as it doesn't replace them. And I honestly don't think it will. Not for the gaming companies that make good games, at least... But I think the people letting the AI help would be actual game developers who get paid for their work... As for the simple statement of fact, you said, "Yes, it would try and make something new. That's a simple statement of fact." And I said, "Except it's not a simple statement of fact since all they use to do before (and probably still do) and take other ideas and use those to make stuff." Try to keep up... Also, in the sentence, I literally said, "all they use to do before (and probably still do) and take other ideas and use those to make stuff." So, I don't know why you any context trouble when the context was literally in the quote. The literal context was in the post. This is making me not want to quote more. Are you actually reading the post? Because I don't understand how you can literally quote the context of my sentence, and then ask for context... If you literally read what you posted, you would have had your context... And there's even more context since the sentences before and after are all talking about AI making video games. There's so much context, you should be drowning in it... Incase you're still confused, I was saying that about Ais making video games...

While I am looking at present day AI, that's because that's all we currently have. Who can actually say if they'll get better at making content? We can't say that for a fact. We can guess and assume, but something could stop it from ever being able to make games and stories better than smooshing other content together. But I am basing off of what we already have, because that's all I can base it off of... And you never know. Maybe they never will make a 100 terabyte that works for your computer. If they don't have one, we can't say for sure they'll make one... And even if they make the computer with one in it, who's to say you'll own it? And I'm not pretending it's about current tech AI. I'm literally talking about the current tech. You're the one that keeps lying about how that stuff is already out now. You keep saying stuff like that's already here. And keep asking why I'm using future tenses. I am talking about current tech. Because there is no future tech guaranteed. Plus, you were the one that keeps acting like this stuff will happen soon because of how fast technology moves. I've been saying that all this stuff is far away. And you keep saying sooner than I think, and that's it's not that far away. And my argument is AI aren't perfect but won't have to worry about mistakes, because the humans watching them to catch the ones the AI doesn't catch. The humans aren't perfect, nor do they have to be. The old saying of two heads are better than one applies here. The more people you have watching, the less mistakes they'll have, and the better chance they have of catching them before it gets to far. You can try to twist my words all you want, though... I'll still be right, and you'll still be wrong...
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1 month ago#184
Another reason I'm not a fan of AI made stuff is there is no feeling behind any of it. They can fake feeling, but real feeling behind something is what can make something special. Like a song somebody sings when somebody got hurt, almost died, and almost caused another person to commit suicide because of how close they were to the other person. It has a different feeling when you hear about how that's why a song was written. Those songs hit different when you know why they were written, ot what they were written about. It feels less special when an AI just made it because it thought people would like it. Same with anything that was made with feeling like a painting, music, or video game. AI don't really have feelings, nor do they feel loss the same way humans do. So, the things they make don't hit the same when there's no real feeling behind it.

Again, a simple typo (keep reading for context). But an easy enough one to figure out. It's like you're not good at reading and figuring out what people are trying to say. What I was saying was, "And I had some civilian friends, but most of them were trouble." Just missing one word. And most people who read at most grade levels would probably be able to figure out what I meant. But based on you other posts, I guess I can see why you would have trouble reading it. You seem to have trouble reading context when it's in the same sentence, so... But it was pretty clear it was English. Maybe you should study the language if that didn't look enough like English to you... Typos happen. Most people can still understand if the only thing is one word changed... As for my friends, you still haven't given an answer. I asked, "Why would I not hang out with them and force myself to find other friends who I probably won't like." The answer is I wouldn't. I like the friends I meet at work. And I don't go out much here. And when I do, the most fun people are usually the people I know from work. I could force myself to hang out with civilians and be bored. But why would I do that when I can hang out with co-workers and have fun? And I never suggested that was the only way. But the friends I make the other way never really seem like fun... So, it' makes sense to hang out with the friends I make at work. The ones I spend a good chunk of my day with. No work would probably mean lousy friends... And I wouldn't be able to hang out with them with no work. Many probably wouldn't stay in the area in the job didn't keep them here. And most aren't people I would have normally thought to hang out with. They don't seem like the type I'd hang around. It's when we were force to get to know each other (because they're on the same shift) that you sometimes realize you have fun around them... So, yes. There is a problem with no having to do a job in the automated future. Especially since it also doesn't mean others would work. Though, that being said, I don't really have to worry about my job anytime soon... Probably not for decades, tbh... As for my job, it's great as a job, but not fun as a hobby. I'm pretty sure I explained that already. I'm not acting like a toddler. You just don't seem to understand what I'm saying. I'm pretty sure I made that clear already... And like I said, it doesn't matter since my job is safe for at least a couple decades. Or until they get rid of this s***ty aircraft, or s***ty system we use... And it's not that I want someone to make me do it. I just want to do it and get paid, and spend time with my co-workers there. It's a pretty fun environment when we're just all there and working. Or doing whatever since we do a lot of other stuff there, as well... We sometimes have more fun there as a group then when we all go to someone's house for like a small get-together... So, to me, A fully automated future is a dystopian future that I' would rather die than live in... Definitely not an upgrade... And it also won't be all free, as I've said multiple times before...

I don't think you understand AI. Nobody owns the AI idea. People own the physical robots they are in, though. That's what I'm talking about. The robots are a physical thing. Like that Sawyer robot crap you posted. You can literally own one. That has the AI in it, right? And somebody can buy and own one, right? So yes. People can own the AI. And people will basically be under their control since they will control pretty much everything. And they will be the ones making a s*** ton of money while everyone else does their best to scrap by... Unless you're saying people can't own the Sawyer bot. But it looks like you can buy one, therefore, you can own that robot with the AI inside... That's the simple logic behind owning AI...

And the AI mimicking the bands is the problem. All they do is mimic. I don't want AI that mimics the bands. I'd rather have the band play them. The mimicked sounds will suck just because that's all it is... A crappy fake... Covers are fine since they sound like the band playing them. AIs mimicking them suck, though... If you like the fakes, good for you. I don't. And will avoid them. I just want the real bands playing the music... As for bands, even if one person dies, the rest of the band could go on if they wanted to... People switch in and out of bands all the time. And you can actually hear the differences when they switch them, too...

And while you say my interpretation is incorrect, I was just basing on what you said earlier: But if you want to talk about those points

a.) That seems like bad business if you can't get enough customers. Normally, when people are making a business, they make a business that people need. Therefore, they would have plenty of customers.

b.) Your profits margins shouldn't be that slim for a business. As the point of a business is usually to make money.

c.) Whether it's your main source of income or not, the point of a business is to make money. Just because profit wasn't paramount doesn't really mean anything...

To me, it still sounds like you had trouble running a business. Side business or not, you should be able to make enough to run it. I made no wild assumptions. I just based my assumption on exactly what you said. And this doesn't help to prove you had a good business. Sounds like you were barely staying afloat. And that's not the best way to run a business... And watching hockey players isn't the same as helping to run a business. But you can say whatever. If I have no business experience from helping my mom with her business, then I would think the same of you. It's not like I was only watching. She was teaching me. From when she first started going to night classes through running the whole thing.

And for the junk self-checkout, I'm not constraining anything. I was always talking about building it from junkyard parts. Why do you think I was talking about building a car from junk part, but was talking about ordering parts for the self-checkout. That would be ridiculous as building a car from junk parts and building a self-checkout from ordered parts don't have anything to do with each other. If I was talking about building a car from ordered parts, that would make sense. But from the beginning, I was talking about building both from junk parts. Idk why you would assume anything different... You're just mad that you "lost the debate"... And to counter you argument, there are also many catalogues that have enough parts to build a classic car, but not a computer. Your point?
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1 month ago#185
If you don't make plans for stuff that could happen, you'll be unprepared. For example, the scenario I described could easily happen. Personally, I hope that it doesn't. But I also don't really trust the self-driving cars for it to not happen... Hence, why I also won't ever ride in one... Also, it is decades in the future or not. I kept saying it was decades in the future. You kept saying it was coming much sooner. And in my lifetime and everything. Like when you said that I may not have choice in the future when I have to get in self-driving cars. So, I don't think it's coming out anytime soon. But what about you. Do you think they're coming out soon, or in decades? And if my claim is unfounded, then so are all of yours... All these claims you're making about self-driving cars. Like how the stupid taxi will work... And I'd rather prove that it's a valid concern before people get hurt or die from it. That's how things should be. But I guess who cares about a few deaths until after it happens. What a great way to think *sarcasm*...

Also, I never said the human drivers couldn't swerve. I'm pretty sure I even mentioned in another post that the same thing could happen to human drivers, didn't I? I even mentioned a human driver could end up changing how the self-driving car acts. So, I'm scuttling my own argument. You just seem to have a hard time reading... And as I said, AIs should be better at avoiding them. If they can still have accidents, I don't want to be in them. If the self-driving car wants full control, it better be perfect... And because it hasn't happened yet, nobody can literally know if it'll be worse that with humans. Unless you can see the future. Which you obviously can't... Having 360 doesn't actually mean it'll see it. As I said, something could end up blocking the view. Or there could be a glare. Leaving the scene of the accident is only illegal for the people in the accidents. Witnesses can leave. And if a car doesn't know it caused it accident, it might keep driving. So, again, "It's possible other cars don't stop to hand over their recording if they weren't involved. And it's possible there would be glare for a human driver. I'd still trust a human driver way more than an AI, though... And it's not a known fact that it's better since we don't have them as commonplace on the road yet. Only once they're commonplace can we make an actual decision. For all you know, mayhem will break loose as soon as too many are on the road... And I obviously know more since I know it could very much easily happen. By that, I mean, an AI can easily miss a human sleeping in another car...

Again, the context is there if you read more than one sentence... All you quoted was, "And are you serious." When if you read more than four words, you would see the whole thing says, "And are you serious. You just quoted where I said, "And here you are quoting baldy again to change my words." And then asked, "Where?" I literally pointed out in the next sentence." So if you actually read more than a few words, maybe you'd see the context. Quoting wouldn't have helped because you obviously wouldn't have read that and just asked, "About what", again. Please, read before asking for context, because it's been given a lot. You just seem to have trouble reading multiple sentences in a row or something... We're both regulars, so I thought you'd remember, but I guess not. Plus, it wasn't like it was a short conversation. While it was shorter than this, it also went on for a while... That said, I remember many conversations I've had with people I don't know over the years. Not really that hard, tbh... If you really believe in something, then you views on it probably wouldn't change. Plus, longer conversations stick with me... And I have other things that take priority in my memory, Doesn't mean I forget everything else. You can remember multiple things at once. That how the brain works.

And I can say you definitely said my bus station was going to get self-driving buses. That's why I started to have a long conversation with you. I mentioned how my bus station was still buying manual buses, and you said that my station would be buying them soon. I remember that detail very specifically because that was the main things that got me going. If you had never said that, we wouldn't even have had much to argue about. And we did argue, so I know you said that. Maybe I'll find the source eventually. But I know you said that. Be a liar if you want, though... And you can doubt my memory, It's still better than yours. It was a while ago. And I gave you a short amount of time it could be in. If I remembered the exact date, I would have already found it. The other problem is I don't remember what the actual topic was about. Mainly because the only conversation that really interested me was you saying that my bus station would have self-driving buses soon... But people can remember conversation easier than when it exactly happened. Because when something happened isn't always as important as the actual conversation... And in the end, the small ones still don't show they are capable of carrying people in wheelchairs. I've seen the videos and articles you showed me. And none of the small ones had an area to secure wheelchairs. And they need to be secured before a bus can carry them. I don't even think they was video of anybody in a wheelchair on them... Unless you can find a video of a small one with wheelchair capabilities... And money does allow people to dodge laws. That's why the rich can usually do whatever they want. They have lawyers who can back them up and find the loopholes to say that what they're doing is ok. This literally happens all the time. Rich people get away with all sorts of things all the time. And they can easily pay settlements to avoid having to worry about certain things at a certain time. Money runs this world, so the rich basically run this world... So, I don't' know what they said to whoever. But if the small buses are running, then they did something. Because none of the small buses you showed my had anything resembling the bus could secure a wheelchair... So, again. It's probably money and loopholes getting them through this without them getting in trouble...
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Sarcasthma
1 month ago#186
Why do you keep arguing when you said you'd never change your mind on this, Link?
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A pickpocket snatches your watch.

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LinkPizza
1 month ago#187
Sarcasthma posted...
Why do you keep arguing when you said you'd never change your mind on this, Link?

Why not? I already know I’m not going to change my mind. But I also don’t see any reason to not respond to him...
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Sarcasthma
1 month ago#188
😂
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A pickpocket snatches your watch.

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ReturnOfFa
1 month ago#189
Write a book homie.
girls like my fa

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LinkPizza
1 month ago#190
ReturnOfFa posted...
Write a book homie.

No time to... Plus, no reason to...
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