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User Info: Zeus

Zeus
4 weeks ago#201
darkknight109 posted...
Born Lucky posted...
He's lowered taxes, brought back millions of jobs, lowered unemployment , and lowered gas prices with his policies.

Some fact checking here:
1) Lowered taxes: accurate. However, this has come at the cost of a trillion dollar deficit in the middle of a roaring economy. Whenever the next downturn hits - and that could be as soon as this year - it will hit on top of a gargantuan deficit. The effects of that will be... well, let's call them "interesting" and leave it at that.
2) Brought back millions of jobs: mostly false. There has been little evidence of jobs returning from overseas; if anything, Trump's tariffs and trade wars have caused some companies to halt expansion plans or move them to other countries unaffected by Trump's tariffs. (most famously Harley Davidson).
3) Lowered unemployment: somewhat false.The unemployment rate at the time when Donald Trump assumed office was 4.9%; today it is 3.9%. That's a gain of about 1.6 million jobs, making the "millions" statement inaccurate. Moreover, this continues a trend of dropping unemployment that was occurring long before Trump took office. Unemployment peaked at 9.8% in 2010, dropping five percentage points over the next six years to the level it hit when Trump took office. Notably, the rate dropped a mere 0.2% between 2017 and 2018, the year in which Trump's policies would have started to take effect (although, in full fairness to Trump, the unemployment rate was low by that point so it is unreasonable to expect it to drop much further). Simply put, there is little evidence that Donald Trump's policies have had much impact - positive or negative - on the unemployment rate.
4) Lowered gas prices: mostly false. Trump caused an increase in oil prices when he re-imposed sanctions on Iran, but has recently granted waivers to eight countries, allowing them to purchase oil from Iran and that has led to a drop in oil prices and subsequent reduction in gasoline costs. Moreover, given how global an industry oil and gas production is, Trump's ability to impact gas prices - for good or ill - is limited.


Man, anything to diminish the accomplishments of a white man!

darkknight109 posted...
Let's see:


Not touching most of this mountain of fluff other than to point out some hilarious highlights:

darkknight109 posted...
19) Pardoned Joe Arpaio after the latter was found guilty of Contempt of Court, despite the fact that Arpaio had not served any prison time (or even been sentenced) and had not admitted his guilt, two prerequisites that are usually standard for pardons.


"That's not how it's normally done! Guys, he's not doing things the way they're normally done! Fie! Fie on him!"

darkknight109 posted...
20) Completely botched the Puerto Rico hurricane recovery.


So he turned what could have otherwise been a s***show into a s***show? >_>

darkknight109 posted...
22) Attempted to overturn the Affordable Care Act, despite having absolutely no plans for a replacement.


And?

darkknight109 posted...
23) Moved the American Embassy in Israel to Jerusalem, touching off weeks of unrest and basically s***tering any role the US could have played as a neutral mediator in the conflict.


...short-term pain for long-term gain. It's like whining about putting in roads because they're bad on horses' hooves.
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Phantom_Nook
4 weeks ago#202
Zeus posted...
Man, anything to diminish the accomplishments of a white man!

is this a serious post?
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streamofthesky
4 weeks ago#203
Phantom_Nook posted...
Zeus posted...
Man, anything to diminish the accomplishments of a white man!

is this a serious post?

He had no actual rebuttal to the excellent points, so rather than admit defeat or simply...not reply, all he could do was try and make a pithy joke.

A normal person would be able to say, "you make a good point" in that situation, or at least if unwilling to do so, just keep quiet.

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Mead
4 weeks ago#204
Phantom_Nook posted...
Zeus posted...
Man, anything to diminish the accomplishments of a white man!

is this a serious post?


Certainly wasn’t made by a serious poster
If they drag you through the mud, it doesnt change whats in your blood

User Info: darkknight109

darkknight109
4 weeks ago#205
Zeus posted...
Man, anything to diminish the accomplishments of a white man!

Less "diminish" and more "point out blatant exaggerations and falsehoods", but you can call it what you like.

Zeus posted...
"That's not how it's normally done! Guys, he's not doing things the way they're normally done! Fie! Fie on him!"

Yeah, pretty much.

I mean, Joe Arpaio is a racist s***head. That's more or less unarguable. He also deliberately and wilfully disobeyed a court order to (in essence) stop being a racist s***head, at least as it pertained to his job as sheriff. That is also more or less unarguable. Trump pardoned him despite the fact that Joe Arpaio clearly saw nothing wrong with being a racist s***head and refusing to even acknowledge that he committed a crime. That's pretty bad.

Zeus posted...
So he turned what could have otherwise been a s***show into a s***show? >_>

He turned what could have been a reasonable recovery (as happened in Texas and Florida) into a s***show. Pretty self-explanatory, honestly.

Zeus posted...
And?

And that's bad. The majority of Americans like the ACA and didn't want it repealed. Does it have problems? Yeah, sure does. Fixable ones? Absolutely. Did Donald Trump offer any fixes to it? Nope - he just said "let's just repeal the whole thing and we'll come up with something else later - pinky swear!".

Zeus posted...
...short-term pain for long-term gain. It's like whining about putting in roads because they're bad on horses' hooves.

What long term gain? The Palestinians aren't even speaking to the Americans at this point. Trump claimed he wanted this "ultimate deal" to have peace in the Middle East, but all he has succeeded in doing is pissing off one side so much they're not even interested in sitting at the same table as him.

It's also created an escalating pissing match because the US has cut humanitarian aid in response in an unsuccessful attempt to strongarm the Palestinians back to the table (because everyone knows the most stable, long-lasting deals come when one party has a gun to their head), and whatever your position on the Israel/Palestine debate, creating a famine and medical crisis is not in anyone's interest.

Trump's plan could be called a wild success if his goal was to increase international sympathy to the Palestinian movement, but as a means of actually solving the conflict? He's done less than every other president of the modern era by a mile (which is actually kind of impressive in its own way, considering how low that bar is set).
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Kill 100 men: You are a hero. Kill 10,000 men, you are a conqueror!
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Doctor Foxx
4 weeks ago#206
Zeus comes into this topic after how long with that? weak. almost as weak as this administration
Never write off the Doctor!

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knivesX2004
4 weeks ago#207
Born Lucky posted...
What has Trump done that makes you believe every new lie that comes out every week.?

I don't believe his lies. He literally lies every time he speaks.

As for the BuzzFeed thing, Mueller's office rarely comments on things. They commented on this with a very carefully worded reply. BuzzFeed doubles down and puts their entire reputation on the line.
Why? If it's fake news it will get found out, just like with Dan Rather.

Doctor Foxx posted...
Zeus comes into this topic after how long with that? weak. almost as weak as this administration

I'm surprised people still humor him to be honest...

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ClarkDuke
4 weeks ago#208
Mead posted...
Phantom_Nook posted...
Zeus posted...
Man, anything to diminish the accomplishments of a white man!

is this a serious post?


Certainly wasn’t made by a serious poster

He's at the very least a serious neo-nazi, let's be fair, ok?
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Blighboy
4 weeks ago#209
He can't be a neo nazi as eastern Europeans aren't really white.
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joemodda posted...
We've got him now! Not unlike the previous million times we got him though, this time will be different


It's kind of funny seeing all the idiotic lefties in forums and the MSM scrambling their hamsters trying to excuse this new failure of theirs.
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