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User Info: Raganork

Raganork
1 month ago#321
@Entity13

It wound up being a mobile port after all. JP exclusive too. Shocker.

Good luck doing that pixel perfect platforming with touch controls.
More of my RPG musings that are probably mostly for Shadow:

What would you call armor that is mostly either padded cloth or leather with plates of metal riveted into it as an outer layer? Not studded leather (that's mainly leather with smaller metal studs, hence the name), and not really splint mail (those tend to be metal strips rather than molded plates), and definitely not plate mail (which is generally overlapping metal plates entirely).

I'm thinking along the lines of the Stalhrim armor in Skyrim, except instead of ice plates, think some kind of metal (either actual metallic in appearance or painted/lacquered to have a color a la historical armors):

http://en.uesp.net/wiki/Dragonborn:Stalhrim#Stalhrim_Light_Armor
http://en.uesp.net/wiki/Dragonborn:Stalhrim#Stalhrim_Heavy_Armor

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User Info: shadowsword87

shadowsword87
1 month ago#323
ParanoidObsessive posted...
More of my RPG musings that are probably mostly for Shadow:

What would you call armor that is mostly either padded cloth or leather with plates of metal riveted into it as an outer layer? Not studded leather (that's mainly leather with smaller metal studs, hence the name), and not really splint mail (those tend to be metal strips rather than molded plates), and definitely not plate mail (which is generally overlapping metal plates entirely).

I'm thinking along the lines of the Stalhrim armor in Skyrim, except instead of ice plates, think some kind of metal (either actual metallic in appearance or painted/lacquered to have a color a la historical armors):

http://en.uesp.net/wiki/Dragonborn:Stalhrim#Stalhrim_Light_Armor
http://en.uesp.net/wiki/Dragonborn:Stalhrim#Stalhrim_Heavy_Armor


I guess you have the "real" answer, which is breastplate plus stuff.
Then you have the "just roll with whatever armor and reflavor it" which is what 99% of people do if they want special armor.
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User Info: WhiskeyDisk

WhiskeyDisk
1 month ago#324
ParanoidObsessive posted...
More of my RPG musings that are probably mostly for Shadow:

What would you call armor that is mostly either padded cloth or leather with plates of metal riveted into it as an outer layer? Not studded leather (that's mainly leather with smaller metal studs, hence the name), and not really splint mail (those tend to be metal strips rather than molded plates), and definitely not plate mail (which is generally overlapping metal plates entirely).

I'm thinking along the lines of the Stalhrim armor in Skyrim, except instead of ice plates, think some kind of metal (either actual metallic in appearance or painted/lacquered to have a color a la historical armors):

http://en.uesp.net/wiki/Dragonborn:Stalhrim#Stalhrim_Light_Armor
http://en.uesp.net/wiki/Dragonborn:Stalhrim#Stalhrim_Heavy_Armor



That's a little overbuilt to be a gambeson, maybe it's something more like a cuir bouilli?

https://i.imgur.com/6hizPK7.png

(Sorry to cut in shadow...)
http://i.imgur.com/4fmtLFt.gif
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User Info: Entity13

Entity13
1 month ago#325
Raganork posted...
@Entity13

It wound up being a mobile port after all. JP exclusive too. Shocker.

Good luck doing that pixel perfect platforming with touch controls.


Well that's a load of crap, and not entirely unexpected. "Hey, let's do a practically effortless cashgrab in the form of porting one of our classic titles to mobile. Wait, why isn't it selling well, and why are people complaining about it I don't understand their reasoning?" - Squeenix, every damn time. They had an opportunity to do right with this one, but nope.
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User Info: Zeus

Zeus
1 month ago#326
ParanoidObsessive posted...
What would you call armor that is mostly either padded cloth or leather with plates of metal riveted into it as an outer layer?


Impractical? >_> The distribution of weight would be a little weird and having the rivets on the inside would likely be a bit uncomfortable unless you had a few extra layers of padding (although I guess a really thick gambeson underneath would probably work as well)

ParanoidObsessive posted...
Not studded leather (that's mainly leather with smaller metal studs, hence the name), and not really splint mail (those tend to be metal strips rather than molded plates), and definitely not plate mail (which is generally overlapping metal plates entirely).


iirc, some variations on the brigandine used exterior molded plates instead of either layered or interior.

WhiskeyDisk posted...
ParanoidObsessive posted...
More of my RPG musings that are probably mostly for Shadow:

What would you call armor that is mostly either padded cloth or leather with plates of metal riveted into it as an outer layer? Not studded leather (that's mainly leather with smaller metal studs, hence the name), and not really splint mail (those tend to be metal strips rather than molded plates), and definitely not plate mail (which is generally overlapping metal plates entirely).

I'm thinking along the lines of the Stalhrim armor in Skyrim, except instead of ice plates, think some kind of metal (either actual metallic in appearance or painted/lacquered to have a color a la historical armors):

http://en.uesp.net/wiki/Dragonborn:Stalhrim#Stalhrim_Light_Armor
http://en.uesp.net/wiki/Dragonborn:Stalhrim#Stalhrim_Heavy_Armor



That's a little overbuilt to be a gambeson, maybe it's something more like a cuir bouilli?

https://i.imgur.com/6hizPK7.png

(Sorry to cut in shadow...)


Not sure how functional it is, but that's some f***ing beautiful armor.
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shadowsword87 posted...
I guess you have the "real" answer, which is breastplate plus stuff.

Well, the "real" answer is that no one ever really made armor like that historically. Other options were always better for a myriad of reasons, so no one would waste the time or resources to make armor that way.

Essentially, it mostly just boils down to LOOKING cooler than historical analogues, which is why it tends to show up in RPGs, where actual practicality is a moot point. In the same sense that female warriors wear chainmail bikinis and yet have armor classes comparable to men wearing full plate armor.



shadowsword87 posted...
Then you have the "just roll with whatever armor and reflavor it" which is what 99% of people do if they want special armor.

I was mostly just wondering if there was an existing fictional term for that sort of armor, since the fantasy genre has invented fictional armor types with little to no real world providence before (like "banded mail").



WhiskeyDisk posted...
That's a little overbuilt to be a gambeson, maybe it's something more like a cuir bouilli?

https://i.imgur.com/6hizPK7.png

Design-wise that's pretty similar, but boiled leather sort of lacks the bolt-on plate effect I was talking about. That's actually closer to a "coat of plate"/"jack of plate", where the plating is deliberately under the cloth/leather/etc as opposed to being the outer layer.

A gambeson is usually referred to as padded or quilted armor in a lot of modern fantasy contexts, and isn't that far off what I had in mind either (at least some of the thinner, more flexible designs), but only in the sense that you could theoretically bolt/strap/etc metal plates to the outside of it.

Basically sort of how a brigandine works. Except that's usually limited to just the chest plate, with the limbs and head being covered by mail. I'm sort of thinking more along the lines of a somewhat segmented brigandine (to allow for greater torso flexibility) combined with similarly constructed bracers and greaves, and with the leg and arm areas mostly covered by quilted or leather armor.

Mainly, I'm trying to think of a way to make heavier armor for a more Dex-based character like a Ranger or Rogue (though ironically, this has absolutely nothing to do with the previous Dex-based character I was brain-storming - something entirely different set me off on this track).

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User Info: WhiskeyDisk

WhiskeyDisk
1 month ago#328
Zeus posted...
Not sure how functional it is, but that's some f***ing beautiful armor.


On it's own against a Minotaur with a Greatsword...probably not ideal.

Kitted out with the right gear:

https://i.imgur.com/Vio2Bm2.png

I can see potential there.
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User Info: WhiskeyDisk

WhiskeyDisk
1 month ago#329
ParanoidObsessive posted...
Mainly, I'm trying to think of a way to make heavier armor for a more Dex-based character like a Ranger or Rogue (though ironically, this has absolutely nothing to do with the previous Dex-based character I was brain-storming - something entirely different set me off on this track).


FWIW the reason the Cuir Bouilli armor came to mind is back when I was the #1 ranked Sniper in the world on PandoraSaga's NA server that was my go to chest piece...now granted my build was high Dex but Dex worked...oddly in that game so I was 2:1 str/Dex in absurdly plussed up armor.

https://i.imgur.com/KYHgC0H.png

Terrible screenshot, but it's about the best one I can find.
http://i.imgur.com/4fmtLFt.gif
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User Info: Zeus

Zeus
1 month ago#330
Finished Jessica Jones s2, which was pretty good although it loses any semblance of a focus at several junctures. Starting with e10 or 11, the thing just takes a weird, sloppy direction.

My favorite MCU NFI seasons so far
DD s1 > JJ s2 & IF > DD s2 > JJ s1 > Defenders & LC
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