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User Info: GnosticBishop

GnosticBishop
4 weeks ago#1
Would insecurity be the main cause of our creating and adoring evil gods?

Humans are the most insecure animals on the planet.

The root of our selfish gene creates insecurity, which feeds our tribal nature; feeding our desire to join religions and other tribes.

This we should see as a loving gesture.

This loving bias simultaneously creates a hate or negative bias to whatever would threaten a human’s new tribe.

Hate is thus good and should not be censored.

In its expression on such sites, I think it would improve us all if we showed our hate with more couth and fewer locker room expletives. I digress.

Our gods, who are political and religious; are all good in our eyes. Yet, they use concepts like killing and genocides, inquisitions and jihads, penalties for minor infractions, --- like death, --- that goes way past an eye for an eye, --- etc. etc. etc.

We are what we think our ideals are. I think we are more moral than our ideal garbage gods.

Our insecurity wants a god that is all powerful and will do anything to save you, and to hell with all that you do not like. Our selfish gene wants to rule the world.

If not insecurity, why do you think we give up our freedom to political and religious con persons and other flagrant liars?

Regards
DL
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User Info: zinformant

zinformant
4 weeks ago#3
GnosticBishop posted...
The root of our selfish gene creates insecurity

You're painfully abusing this term.
Is it naive to dream of a world without war?

User Info: GnosticBishop

GnosticBishop
4 weeks ago#4
zinformant posted...
GnosticBishop posted...
The root of our selfish gene creates insecurity

You're painfully abusing this term.


If insecurity and our selfish gene is not driving us into tribal religions, then what is?

Regards
DL

User Info: 3127

3127
4 weeks ago#5
I have nothing against “tribal religions” or “evil gods”. I like a variety of things to explore and learn from.
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User Info: kozlo100

kozlo100
4 weeks ago#6
This seems nonsensical to me. Insecurity doesn't want a selfish, vengeful, and certainly not evil god. It wants one that is actually omnibenevolent.

Insecurity wants to know that no matter what you do, no matter who you are, no matter how you screw up, you'll be taken care of. An evil, vain, and deceptive god is the opposite of that.
Time flies like the wind,
and fruit flies like a banana.

User Info: Frolfer

Frolfer
4 weeks ago#7
kozlo100 posted...
This seems nonsensical to me. Insecurity doesn't want a selfish, vengeful, and certainly not evil god. It wants one that is actually omnibenevolent.

Insecurity wants to know that no matter what you do, no matter who you are, no matter how you screw up, you'll be taken care of. An evil, vain, and deceptive god is the opposite of that.

Amazingly, I actually think I'm with @GnosticBishop on this one. I think that insecurity--unhealthy and disordered as it is--does want something that will come in to destroy and invalidate everything that is foreign to me, the individual.

Where I differ with Gnostic is that I believe there is healing and redemption in a relationship with Jesus Christ, who destroys our insecurities (either instantly or over a long, agonizing process--whichever is appropriate to the individual and the situation) and teaches us to love as God loves.

Random thought: the Beach Boys were a really great band. One of the best. They're underappreciated.

Whoops, I think I'm off-topic!
Wimoweh!

User Info: kozlo100

kozlo100
4 weeks ago#8
Frolfer posted...
I think that insecurity--unhealthy and disordered as it is--does want something that will come in to destroy and invalidate everything that is foreign to me, the individual.


I know what you're saying, but I don't think I agree. I think it's a different kind of fear, and a dose of shame or guilt to go with it, that ends up causing that feeling. I still think plain old insecurity just wishes for someone to fix it.
Time flies like the wind,
and fruit flies like a banana.

User Info: GnosticBishop

GnosticBishop
4 weeks ago#9
3127 posted...
I have nothing against “tribal religions” or “evil gods”. I like a variety of things to explore and learn from.


You do not seem to care that the evil gods and their vile religions target women and gays in your family and refuse to grant them equal rights.

Ok.

Have you heard of the Golden Rule?

Regards
DL
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User Info: GnosticBishop

GnosticBishop
4 weeks ago#10
kozlo100 posted...
This seems nonsensical to me. Insecurity doesn't want a selfish, vengeful, and certainly not evil god. It wants one that is actually omnibenevolent.


To the in group, sure, but the insecure religious want a god who is for them and against the other side.

Why else would they idol worship a genocidal son murdering prick of a god?

Not because he is good.

Regards
DL
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