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User Info: lunamoon7

lunamoon7
4 weeks ago#71
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User Info: GreenKnight127

GreenKnight127
4 weeks ago#72
lunamoon7 posted...
https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/DoubleStandardRapeDivineOnMortal

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Haha, that's a neat little webpage. Zeus was a horndog!

Some pretty interesting points on this thread so far. The_final_bahamut definitely seems to be tracking my mentality on the subject.

The Bible was written in such a way that it is very vague, poetic, and strangely literal at the same time. It doesn't exactly express the inner thoughts of people very well at all. It just states events as they were. "This happened: And it was so." We couldn't possibly have known what was going on in Mary's mind.

Yes, she believed in God, and her faith was strong or whatever (?) but....there wasn't an ounce of feeling overwhelmed? Afraid? Nervous? Intimidated? Confused? Wondering what her husband would think when she starts growing a belly? What the neighborhood would think? What God or his angel would think if she turned the offer down? Was it really an offer, or did God know she would say yes before she even said yes?

Did she feel contractually obligated to say "yes" simply because it was God???

I mean....when you really step back and look at everything involved....the very idea of even being ABLE to consent to a f***ing GOD.....is a hot mess of absurdity.

I'm simply suggesting that the power dynamic between God and mortals isn't something I see brought up very often (if at all), and how duress played a huge factor in Biblical events, including the Virgin Mary. People just didn't look at it though #MeToo goggles, because such concepts were alien back then.

But oh how times have changed. And our perceptions of God have changed as well.
"Think about everything you want out of life. Now think about how many of those things you want only because someone else told you to want them."

User Info: OrangeWizard

OrangeWizard
4 weeks ago#73
GreenKnight127 posted...
Did she feel contractually obligated to say "yes" simply because it was God???


Did she?

User Info: YHWH_Saves

YHWH_Saves
4 weeks ago#74
GreenKnight127 posted...
We couldn't possibly have known what was going on in Mary's mind.

I literally posted Mary's exact after-the-fact words, and you've seemingly disregarded. It seems that we would rather sensationalize history, and then run with these unstated, injected viewpoints rather than the clear text.

Mary is ecstatic that she's been chosen to carry the child of God. She sings about it. Her cousin sings about it. At no point do we have a hint of doubt or fear of being coerced by the power of God.

It's a privilege, not some creepy sexual burden.
"Man will not live off of bread alone, but by every word proceeding through the mouth of God." "You are not able to serve God and wealth.".

User Info: GreenKnight127

GreenKnight127
4 weeks ago#75
YHWH_Saves posted...
GreenKnight127 posted...
We couldn't possibly have known what was going on in Mary's mind.

I literally posted Mary's exact after-the-fact words, and you've seemingly disregarded. It seems that we would rather sensationalize history, and then run with these unstated, injected viewpoints rather than the clear text.

Mary is ecstatic that she's been chosen to carry the child of God. She sings about it. Her cousin sings about it. At no point do we have a hint of doubt or fear of being coerced by the power of God.

It's a privilege, not some creepy sexual burden.


Do you honestly believe that giving consent to another human being is the same as giving consent to God?
"Think about everything you want out of life. Now think about how many of those things you want only because someone else told you to want them."

User Info: OrangeWizard

OrangeWizard
4 weeks ago#76
Do you have any reason why it should be different?

User Info: Ratchet_Fan8

Ratchet_Fan8
4 weeks ago#77
Consent back then didn't exist
If you were strong you could do things, faith gave you determination and willpower and separated you from simple creatures.
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