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User Info: Dagorha

Dagorha
6 months ago#21
GnosticBishop posted...
Dagorha posted...
I'm confused TC. I know that Gnostics tend think the OT God is a Demiurge, but I don't recall any Gnostic teachings that would praise the devil.


Are you addressing me?

Regards
DL


Yes
Songs that the Hyades shall sing, Where flap the tatters of the King,
Must die unheard in Dim Carcosa.

User Info: OrangeWizard

OrangeWizard
6 months ago#22
GnosticBishop posted...

The only power that the bible speaks of is the power to deceive the whole world that god gave Satan before casting her to earth. Now why that stupid S O B would gift us with Satan + extra deception power to use against us is never explained.

Nowhere is it said that god gave Satan the power to make animals speak human. Scriptures do say that god is all powerful and he could.


That's a fallacy. Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence. Just because the bible does not explicitly state that "Satan can control animals", it does not mean that he cannot.

Sorry, your reasoning just doesn't hold up.

User Info: Dagorha

Dagorha
6 months ago#23
OrangeWizard posted...
GnosticBishop posted...

The only power that the bible speaks of is the power to deceive the whole world that god gave Satan before casting her to earth. Now why that stupid S O B would gift us with Satan + extra deception power to use against us is never explained.

Nowhere is it said that god gave Satan the power to make animals speak human. Scriptures do say that god is all powerful and he could.


That's a fallacy. Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence. Just because the bible does not explicitly state that "Satan can control animals", it does not mean that he cannot.

Sorry, your reasoning just doesn't hold up.


To be fair, it doesn't mean that Satan can do it either.
Songs that the Hyades shall sing, Where flap the tatters of the King,
Must die unheard in Dim Carcosa.

User Info: OrangeWizard

OrangeWizard
6 months ago#24
Dagorha posted...


To be fair, it doesn't mean that Satan can do it either.


Of course.

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DaveTheUseless
6 months ago#25
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User Info: GnosticBishop

GnosticBishop
6 months ago#26
kozlo100 posted...
GnosticBishop posted...
FMPOV, all that happens in scriptures is written for us to internalize, much like your last indicates.


So, am I to understand that the answer to "where are you getting that from?" is "myself"?


All you know is stored in your brain, so I would say yes, initially, and ask if your brain registered a source other than your own thinking.

Most of what we know comes from a source and very little of our thinking is original.

Proof of that is in your mind. I am not sure if I have ever had an original though. Have you and what was it?

Regards
DL

User Info: GnosticBishop

GnosticBishop
6 months ago#27
loki00_00 posted...
More like Satan was trying to impress Adam's girlfriend with
beautiful apples of knowledge, to seduce her, and she was dumb
enough to stay with her boyfriend, who is bereft of value.

As a result of Satan being lonely after this,
all evil in the world flowed forth like an ocean.

The real question,
Why would God create something ugly?
Why would God create something evil?
Why would God make a mistake?

God does not make mistakes,
and just because you cannot see his plan in full,
it does not mean, necessarily, does it,
that things turn out badly for Satan in the end.

Indeed, if God created him, he created him for a purpose.

He was even nice enough to give him his own kingdom,
where he can torture his enemies to his heart's content.

Which he likes to do.

It was a nice thing to do for him,
I don't know why he's mad at God.

I see neither an evil creature without value,
or a God seeing no purpose in this creature.

Only fools would ever believe such things.....

They assert their God is a flawed butterfingers, ie = NOT GOD


Thanks for this off topic reply.

Regards
DL

User Info: GnosticBishop

GnosticBishop
6 months ago#28
DaveTheUseless posted...
Hail Satin


Why?

Regards
DL
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User Info: GnosticBishop

GnosticBishop
6 months ago#30
Dagorha posted...
OrangeWizard posted...
GnosticBishop posted...

The only power that the bible speaks of is the power to deceive the whole world that god gave Satan before casting her to earth. Now why that stupid S O B would gift us with Satan + extra deception power to use against us is never explained.

Nowhere is it said that god gave Satan the power to make animals speak human. Scriptures do say that god is all powerful and he could.


That's a fallacy. Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence. Just because the bible does not explicitly state that "Satan can control animals", it does not mean that he cannot.

Sorry, your reasoning just doesn't hold up.


To be fair, it doesn't mean that Satan can do it either.


I agree.

We should read what is said and not what we want it to say.

Regards
DL
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