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OnceInALifeTime
6 years ago#51
Julian_Caesar, do you really not see the futility in trying to argue that there is something beyond the material world when, by definition, we can only detect what is in the material world? And secondly, a question: do you believe there is something beyond the material world? I ask because there is no reasonable argument to believe in anything beyond the material until we know more about the universe, and what may be beyond it.
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Hustle Kong
6 years ago#52
Once: have you read d'Holbach's System of Nature? It is notable for being the first avowedly atheist work in the west, and I really liked his explanation of the problem of the immaterial.
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OnceInALifeTime
6 years ago#53
I haven't read it, no. I might look it up later. It seems interesting from the wikipedia entry on it. I do understand though that a lot of scientists consider that Quantum Mechanics essentially disproves materialism, but I think it disproves it in a way that many theists would be uncomfortable with supporting.
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OnceInALifeTime
6 years ago#54
And I'd like to change my previous post to:

I ask because there is no reasonable argument to believe in anything beyond the material that can be considered supernatural until we know more about the universe, and what may be beyond it.

There is no doubt that the possibility exists, and there is greater certainty now that something beneath the material flows between everything, but to take that as evidence for magical beings or mythology being real is a still a massive leap into ignorance.
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