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User Info: sthater

sthater
8 years ago#11

From: arian487 | Posted: 5/24/2011 12:23:16 PM | #010
Alright sorry guys, I don't believe in that crap I just said. I was just trying to put my mind in the mind of a creationist. I was just trolling. I'm an atheist and I'm all for evolution (and understand it better then the average guy).

Sorry TC, I thought you would have known me from the forum.


Haha yeah I had figured that maybe you were playing Devil's Advocate but I wanted to test myself there :P
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User Info: Diranosaur

Diranosaur
8 years ago#12
arian487 posted...
Alright sorry guys, I don't believe in that crap I just said. I was just trying to put my mind in the mind of a creationist. I was just trolling. I'm an atheist and I'm all for evolution (and understand it better then the average guy).

Sorry TC, I thought you would have known me from the forum.


Just found out about the religion, philosphy and politics boards, so I don't know you. You were convincing, though :)
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User Info: arian487

arian487
8 years ago#13
Yea I've been here for a while, so I was regurgitating some of the common arguments you were likely to hear (I've heard the kinds one many times). Your answers were decent enough.
x - (x^3 / 3!) + (x^5 / 5!) - (x^7 / 7!) + ... = sinx
4(1 - 1/3 + 1/5 - 1/7 + ...) = PI

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sthater
8 years ago#14

From: arian487 | Posted: 5/24/2011 12:33:45 PM | #013
Yea I've been here for a while, so I was regurgitating some of the common arguments you were likely to hear (I've heard the kinds one many times). Your answers were decent enough.


Well I'm no biologist myself but I've always found the argument from phylogeny to be one of the strongest ones for evolution. And interestingly enough one of the ones that is never addressed.

Primarily of course because when you're looking through the evolution of species it's sometimes really hard to point out the one area where one group diverges and is then different. And if things actually worked in the way that creationists claim with "kinds' we wouldn't have that. Everything would be obvious and distinct. But it isn't.
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User Info: LosingStreak06

LosingStreak06
8 years ago#15
You do realize that macroevolution is just microevolution, but over a longer time, right?

Technically, no. It isn't.
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User Info: Diranosaur

Diranosaur
8 years ago#16
LosingStreak06 posted...
Technically, no. It isn't.

There is no set definition, but most agree that it is.
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LosingStreak06
8 years ago#17
Eh, no.

Macro- and micro- don't deal with lengths of time, they deal with gene pool sizes. Macroevolution deals with evolutionary changes at or above the level of an entire species' gene pool, whereas microevolution deals with allele frequencies in a single species (or sample population of a single species).

Hope that explains it a bit.
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Diranosaur
8 years ago#18
LosingStreak06 posted...
Eh, no.

Macro- and micro- don't deal with lengths of time, they deal with gene pool sizes. Macroevolution deals with evolutionary changes at or above the level of an entire species' gene pool, whereas microevolution deals with allele frequencies in a single species (or sample population of a single species).

Hope that explains it a bit.


I know the definition, but many changes at a microevolutionary plane will become changes at a macroevolutional plane over time.
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LosingStreak06
8 years ago#19
That's rather oversimplifying it, but I won't argue the point any further.
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OrangeWizard
8 years ago#20
And after this topic, nothing was any different.
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