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Humble_Novice 1 month ago#1
https://mynews4.com/news/local/nevada-could-have-open-primaries-ranked-choice-voting-under-proposed-initiative

RENO, Nev. (News 4 & Fox 11) — Nevada elections would transition to open primaries and ranked-choice voting under a proposed statewide ballot initiative filed this month with the Secretary of State's Office.

The measure, which would need to get 144,777 signatures to qualify for the Nov. 2022 ballot, seeks to involve nonpartisan and third-party voters, which now make up over a third of the Nevada electorate.

As opposed to the current party primary system, open primaries would allow all voters, regardless of party registration, to vote for any candidate. The top five vote-getters, regardless of party, would advance to the general election, in which voters would rank their top candidates.

Under ranked-choice voting, voters could rank as many as five candidates. Election officials tally the votes and if one candidate has more than 50% of the vote, that candidate is declared the winner.

If, however, no candidate received more than 50% of the vote, the candidate who received the fewest votes is eliminated. People who voted for the last-place candidate then have their second-choice votes counted. That process repeats until one candidate passes 50% and is declared the winner.

The reform seeks to minimize negative campaigning and encourage coalition-building, since candidates may need the votes of other candidates' supporters to win.

According to the ballot initiative that will be circulated, open primaries and ranked-choice voting would only apply to major statewide races and Congressional races. The presidential nominating process would remain the same.

TMCC political science professor Fred Lokken said the initiative comes amid a national trend to ensure nonpartisan and third-party voters have more of a say in the electoral process.

"Almost a majority of Americans in almost every state really do not connect with the two-party system any longer," Lokken said.

For example, nonpartisan and third-party voters make up over 34% of the Washoe County electorate, more than Democrats and Republicans, according to the Washoe County registrar.

While Lokken said open primaries have been successful and would likely boost primary voter turnout, he fears ranked-choice voting will confuse voters and doesn't really lower the political temperature as much as proponents hope.

"Americans don't vote in part because our elections are so overwhelming and so confusing. There are so many decisions to make and it seems like there are so many candidates," he said.

Las Vegas attorney Todd Bice filed the request to start getting signatures on behalf of 'Nevada Voters First.' In a press release, Bice said a 'bipartisan coalition' in support of the reforms would soon be announced.

The initiative would need to get 140,777 valid signatures from Nevada voters to qualify for the ballot, including at least 35,195 signatures from each congressional district.

Since the measure alters the Nevada Constitution, it would need to pass in 2022 and 2024 to go into effect for the 2026 election.
NoMeLx22x 1 month ago#2
I kinda like this. Has this been implemented anywhere else to see how's it's been so far?
Sigs are for losers.
streamofthesky 1 month ago#3
This is exactly what we need.

The only exception is that the presidential election should not be conducted this way.
Until the entire country uses ranked choice, having Dem states alone implement it just hands the election to Republicans. Much like how Dems not gerrymandering while Republicans do hands them the House.

At best, people realize it's a trap and vote for the lesser evil anyway and the ranked choice does nothing.
At worst, they buy into it, put the Green or whoever first and Dem 2nd, figuring either way a Republican doesn't win the electoral votes...
...and then the 3rd party wins them and the Dems lose ground in the overall electoral college battle.
TundraKing87 1 month ago#4
Open primaries suck ass. Waaay more chances of ratf***ing a party with trash heap candidates the other party prop up to squash in a general election.
Xenogears15 1 month ago#5
Don't like open primaries, too much possibility for ratf***ery. But I like ranked choice.
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streamofthesky 1 month ago#6
TundraKing87 posted...
Open primaries suck ass. Waaay more chances of ratf***ing a party with trash heap candidates the other party prop up to squash in a general election.
true...
That part is unnecessary. The problem w/ closed primaries is that half the voters (unaffiliated) get no choice on their only two options for the election. But w/ ranked choice voting, you no longer have to choose the lesser evil, so there's less problem w/ the primaries being rigged by the extreme/base of each party. You can even get rid of sore loser laws and just let whoever run in the general election.
Not sure why they'd do open primaries AND ranked choice voting.
Tel_Fry_733T 1 month ago#7
streamofthesky posted...
true...
That part is unnecessary. The problem w/ closed primaries is that half the voters (unaffiliated) get no choice on their only two options for the election. But w/ ranked choice voting, you no longer have to choose the lesser evil, so there's less problem w/ the primaries being rigged by the extreme/base of each party. You can even get rid of sore loser laws and just let whoever run in the general election.
Not sure why they'd do open primaries AND ranked choice voting.

I think weighted primaries make sense more than completely open.

Ex: Dem primary
Registered Dem vote is worth 3
Indy 2
Repub 1

Vice versa for Repub
streamofthesky 1 month ago#8
Tel_Fry_733T posted...
I think weighted primaries make sense more than completely open.

Ex: Dem primary
Registered Dem vote is worth 3
Indy 2
Repub 1

Vice versa for Repub
That'd be fine, too. I guess it depends if they count you as "Indy" if you switched to unaffiliated recently. Could see a mass of Republicans like even a year in advance switching to unaffiliated just to mess w/ the Dem primary if the Republican is an incumbent or something.

I think Dems would do well to have weighted primaries for the presidential candidate, too. Any state that was a "battleground" in the prior presidential general election (decided by 5% or less) is worth twice as many delegates, or such. I thought that ever since 2016, when Hillary swept to victory over Bernie by mopping up a bunch of bible belt states that would never vote Democrat anyway.
Until the system is un- f***ed, it's better to just gear your political machinery towards working w/ what you've got.
LearntoRead 1 month ago#9
The more ranked-choice spreads the better. It seems like a better system then what we have now.
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