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User Info: Bullet_Wing

Bullet_Wing
2 weeks ago#1
Seems impossible to support the guy nowadays. He's clearly in at least the early stages of dementia, this impeachment inquiry has him shook as all hell, and all his policy decisions have fallen flat.
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User Info: magemaximus

magemaximus
2 weeks ago#2
well nixon still had supporters
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User Info: ClayGuida

ClayGuida
2 weeks ago#3
Some people are simply partisan hacks. "I'd rather be Russian than a democrat" wasn't a joke. "If we have a king, I'd want it to be Trump" wasn't a joke. These people were serious. There's a sect of people out there that drank the kool aid and because of Fox News Propaganda, feel that being lorded over is better than having a Democrat in office.
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User Info: slaity

slaity
2 weeks ago#4
The shallow state is in many respects the antithesis of the deep state. The power of the deep state comes from experience, knowledge, relationships, insight, craft, special skills, traditions, and shared values. Together, these purported attributes make nameless bureaucrats into a supergovernment that is accountable to no one. That is a scary prospect. But the nature of bureaucracies, human nature, inertia, checks and balances, and respect for the chain of command makes it seem a bit far-fetched to me. (The bureaucracy will drive Trump, like many presidents, mad, and some within it will challenge him, but that’s not the same thing.)

The shallow state, on the other hand, is unsettling because not only are the signs of it ever more visible but because its influence is clearly growing. It is made scarier still because it not only actively eschews experience, knowledge, relationships, insight, craft, special skills, tradition, and shared values but because it celebrates its ignorance of and disdain for those things. Donald Trump, champion and avatar of the shallow state, has won power because his supporters are threatened by what they don’t understand, and what they don’t understand is almost everything. Indeed, from evolution to data about our economy to the science of vaccines to the threats we face in the world, they reject vast subjects rooted in fact in order to have reality conform to their worldviews. They don’t dig for truth; they skim the media for anything that makes them feel better about themselves. To many of them, knowledge is not a useful tool but a cunning barrier elites have created to keep power from the average man and woman. The same is true for experience, skills, and know-how. These things require time and work and study and often challenge our systems of belief. Truth is hard; shallowness is easy.

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User Info: Heineken14

Heineken14
2 weeks ago#5
magemaximus posted...
well nixon still had supporters


Hell, a big Nixon fanboy just got arrested not to longer ago!
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User Info: PraetorXyn

PraetorXyn
2 weeks ago#7
A lot of votes are spite votes. Especially in 2016.

Hillary got a lot of votes that were "not Trump" rather than "for Hillary."
Trump got a lot of votes that were "not Hillary" rather than "for Trump."

That being said, right leaning voters tend to lean more toward partisan hacks if voting percentages are any indication. It's been a while since I looked up the percentages, but off the top of my head Trump got 0.8% more of the vote than McCain and 1.1% less than Romney, something like that. While Hillary got 2.8% less than Obama 2012 and something like 5% less than Obama 2008.

Im other words, conservatives tend to not have any standards and simply vote Republican, because they vote pretty consistently regardless of who the nominee is.

In contrast, liberals / progressives tend to have standards and enough of them won't vote for a giant turd with a (D) next to his or her name that nominating such a candidate is a bad idea. See Biden.
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User Info: Musourenka

Musourenka
2 weeks ago#8
For many on the right, it's about winning rather than principles.
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User Info: Bluebomber182

Bluebomber182
2 weeks ago#9
It's a f***ing cult
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User Info: GEKGanon

GEKGanon
2 weeks ago#10
Bullet_Wing posted...
Seems impossible to support the guy nowadays. He's clearly in at least the early stages of dementia, this impeachment inquiry has him shook as all hell, and all his policy decisions have fallen flat.


It isn't about good or evil, right or wrong, moral or immoral... it is about "winning", and what that means these days is "owning the libs." Trump's supporters hitched their wagon to his horse, and they intend to ride until the wheels come off, because just to have him in office is "owning the libs."

Frankly, the guy could take a steaming diarrhea s*** in each and every one of his supporters mouths, and because liberals would find it disgusting, his supporters would laugh their asses off and beg for more.
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