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600k
2 weeks ago#11
Go watch something else then.
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Hyena 20
2 weeks ago#12
the final bahamut posted...
South park has a long and shameful history of transphobia and verbal trans bashing. There's no ambiguity about it, it's not clever, it's not satire, it's comedy that relies on the viewer agreeing that trans people aren't valid. That you are trying to be funny doesn't stop your hate speech from being hate speech.


That said, South Park exists so that the creators can be intentionally offensive for the sake of being offensive and give the middle finger to "political correctness" and "feelings" while trying to make socio-economic points-- which probably isn't a good idea to mix together.
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Hyena 20
2 weeks ago#13
Anarchy_Juiblex posted...
What is hate speech?


Something that the United States is one of the few nations in the world not to have. How pathetic is that? Only. One. Country. And yet we're still one of the most authoritarian industrialized countries when it comes to press freedom and whistleblowers. WTF?!?!
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PreacherBeelze
2 weeks ago#14
You can say what you want, but I agree with George Carlin in regards to “punching down” in comedy.

Trans people are people, just like any other, their particular strife is a little harder for many other people to develop any sense of empathy about it... I’m not offended by the South Park espies ode, but in reality, I think if the bottom line of your joke is “these people are all stupid and or crazy” chances are it’s just not that great of a joke...

Again though, say what you want, you can... it’s fine, but people can say what they want in return, and sometimes it’s things you don’t want to hear... like “I won’t pay money to see that guy” or “I won’t watch anything with that guy on it, and don’t want to support them in any way whatsoever”... you can... like an idiot... when say, a venue decides to side with those people... misinterpret people’s free speech and autonomy as “censorship”... but that’s stupid.

anyhow, the line? Is pretty simple for me... good comedy requires a degree of empathy, even if “edgy”... and if your comedy requires taking a tiny % of the population and further reducing them into a caricature... chances are you’re lacking empathy... empathy is understanding, good comedy requires a degree of understanding that just doesn’t work well when you’re punching down.
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Dynedux
2 weeks ago#15
Show of hands, who actually watched the show?
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TonyKojima
2 weeks ago#16
Wait southpark is still a thing? LOL
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ArtiRock
2 weeks ago#17
the final bahamut posted...
Bullet_Wing posted...
There's a damn good reason fitness tests have lower standards for women than men.


No there isn't.
If the fitness test are the minimum physical capabilities you need to serve, then there's no reason for it to be lower. If it isn't then there's no justification for the test.

Fine. I suppose you'd be fine with less women in the army then. Because the minimum is what men can do.

To be quite frank, women on average simply aren't as useful on the infantry front.
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goooooBills
2 weeks ago#18
Never? That's why it's comedy lol.
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TonyKojima
2 weeks ago#19
Hyena 20 posted...
the final bahamut posted...
South park has a long and shameful history of transphobia and verbal trans bashing. There's no ambiguity about it, it's not clever, it's not satire, it's comedy that relies on the viewer agreeing that trans people aren't valid. That you are trying to be funny doesn't stop your hate speech from being hate speech.


That said, South Park exists so that the creators can be intentionally offensive for the sake of being offensive and give the middle finger to "political correctness" and "feelings" while trying to make socio-economic points-- which probably isn't a good idea to mix together.

Trey Parker and Matt Stone are morons and always have been.
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BrightShield786
2 weeks ago#20
Hyena 20 posted...
Something that the United States is one of the few nations in the world not to have. How pathetic is that?
Freedom of Speech is pathetic?
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