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User Info: Black_Arch

Black_Arch
4 weeks ago#121
Bernie is a socialist he'll turn this country into Venezuela 2.0

Warren is a crazy cat lady she's not even an Indian.

Harris is a hologram.

In Biden we trust.
Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
Give me Liberty, or give me Death! - Patrick Henry

User Info: LightSnake

LightSnake
4 weeks ago#122
PraetorXyn posted...
Obama started every negotiation at a compromise, then the Republicans did what they were supposed to do and pulled him halfway between where he started and their position (that's how compromise is supposed to work).
You gotta love this stupid, dogmtic point of "every negotiation starts someplace and moves to the middle" It's like you can tell exactly where you get your talking points from Young Turks and Kyle Kulinski.

Can you tell us where that works in politics, exactly?
John Boehner famously bragged that he'd gotten everything he wanted from Obama at one point. He continued most of Bush's worst policies like the Patriot Act, NSA surveillance, droning and regime change foreign policy excluding the Iraq war (he couldn't pull out of there until the allotted time if he wanted to),
You gotta love how Republicans are always lying bastards who can't be trusted except when Little Mr. More Progressive Than Thou can dunk on the Democrats. Boehner bragging doesn't make it so.
"Excluding the Iraq War." Oh, except that one TINY little thing, of course, he was just like Bush. No, Libya was exactly like Iraq. Except it wasn't at all.

I mean, ignore the fact that Presidents aren't god kings and congress didn't even consider getting rid of most of those. And all the ways Obama reversed course on Bush's policies. But those don't let you have your feel good purity moments, so we have to ignore them
and he didn't punish a single banker for the wide scale fraud that exacerbated the 2008 financial collapse.


"Obama kept us on the course of the POLICE STATE!" And then in the same f***ing breath "Obama didn't punish people for things that weren't crimes!" Man, almost like you're not remotely consistent.

I was also really hopeful that as he was leaving office he'd de-schedule marijuana and pardon non-violent drug offenders since he wouldn't have to worry about the political backlash any lomger. So yes, he was very disappointing to me because I have some reasonable standards like him not doing the same s*** Bush did.


Under Obama, the government eased enforcement of federal marijuana laws in states with legalized cannabis.
And, y'know... https://tinyurl.com/z8y5sn4
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/nation/obama-administration-end-use-private-prisons
https://www.npr.org/2018/01/04/575679429/attorney-general-rescinds-obama-era-marijuana-guidelines
But you got the sads, so nothing good happened.

Finally, you are the ones making this about race. I'd feel the exact same way I do about blue states and the south in presidential primaries if every black person in the south traded places with a white person from a blue state.


"You're the one making it about race! I'm just saying black people shouldn't count where most of them live." Piss off with that. How about you give a candidate Democrats will vote for?

Here's what we've established:
-You can't show any correlation between the primary and general elections
- You can't even say which states will count more
- You can't show us a candidate who'd pass under this despite transparently trying to rig it for Bernie. What's next, Xyn? "Everything should be a caucus" or something?

I'll say agai:, your precious Bernie not only lost the South, he lost most swing states, he lost California, he lost the northeast, New England and so forth. funny how that works. So tell us which states should matter? "We should decide the election just by Michigan and Wisconsin!"

....Or wait, are those swing states now? So is Indiana also one? I can't keep up with your complete lack of standards. I'm sure it's coincidence your point is so similar to the Republican defense. "Its not about race, honest!"
Ring the bells that still can ring/Forget your perfect offering/There is a crack in everything/That's how the light gets in."- RIP, Leonard Cohen

User Info: PraetorXyn

PraetorXyn
4 weeks ago#123
We disagree, and that's fine. What isn't fine is that you can't be remotely civil. I'm done with your arrogant condescension despite you being completely wrong about everything for the past three years. You're as bad as f***ing benji when the subject is daring to criticize the holy party.
Console war in a nutshell:
http://imgur.com/xA6GJZ9.png

User Info: LightSnake

LightSnake
4 weeks ago#124
PraetorXyn posted...
We disagree, and that's fine. What isn't fine is that you can't be remotely civil. I'm done with your arrogant condescension despite you being completely wrong about everything for the past three years. You're as bad as f***ing benji when the subject is daring to criticize the holy party.


Your criticisms aren't in good faith, nor founded in reality, and you're falling back on genuine racist drivel at this point. You're just engaging in blatant bulls*** and whining when called on it. I feel no need to treat someone whose central thesis is "let's disenfranchise black and brown people" like they're worthy of respect.

Tell us what you've been right about. Sell us the great progressive revolution. If anyone deserves a Biden presidency, it's you.
Ring the bells that still can ring/Forget your perfect offering/There is a crack in everything/That's how the light gets in."- RIP, Leonard Cohen

User Info: odanzrexorc

odanzrexorc
4 weeks ago#125
LightSnake posted...
PraetorXyn posted...
We disagree, and that's fine. What isn't fine is that you can't be remotely civil. I'm done with your arrogant condescension despite you being completely wrong about everything for the past three years. You're as bad as f***ing benji when the subject is daring to criticize the holy party.


Your criticisms aren't in good faith, nor founded in reality, and you're falling back on genuine racist drivel at this point. You're just engaging in blatant bulls*** and whining when called on it. I feel no need to treat someone whose central thesis is "let's disenfranchise black and brown people" like they're worthy of respect.

Tell us what you've been right about. Sell us the great progressive revolution. If anyone deserves a Biden presidency, it's you.


Black people should be free to vote for whoever they want, including a guy who literally supported segregation.
The solution to every problem isn't throwing acid on it, unless that problem is a solution with an overly alkaline ph balance.
Carlos Danger / El Chapo 2020!!!
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