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User Info: Maverick3000

Maverick3000
3 years ago#21
-Kicksave- posted...

Except the whole empirical evidence that the work requirement Clinton implemented was tremendously successful. Dear god.


This is a bit different from the requirements Clinton imposed. Clinton was far far more wide ranging and often times just showing you sent resumes or made phone calls qualified. They are essentially requiring people to go out and waste their time on things that really have no effect on improving their employment activities.
we're not all geniuses like you Maverick. >_> - AWrulez

User Info: willythemailboy

willythemailboy
3 years ago#22
Maverick3000 posted...
willythemailboy posted...

Actually, volunteering is often a good way to add to a resume, avoid blank zones of unemployment, learn skills or keep skills current, and meet new people. Or at the very least establish a "past employer" as a reference to use when looking for a paying job.

Don't think "serving soup at the homeless shelter", think "interning at the local headquarters of your party of choice".


We are talking about people on unemployment so they already have something on their resume. Not a recently graduated high school kid.


Are we? The article said nothing about unemployment benefits, just welfare in general. Other sources specifically identify the main program targeted as TANF, which is general welfare not unemployment.

The one program I can't believe they're cutting is Parents as Scholars, which allows parents in college to receive TANF.
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User Info: DuneMan

DuneMan
3 years ago#23
How to make a resume:
Step 1. Lie
Step 2. Enjoy your new employment. :P

But seriously, resumes are basically an excuse for employers to say 'no'. Sending in resumes alone does nothing. You need to speak to someone in person. That will do more to get a job than a hundred resumes sent out blind.

Shoot, a lot of larger companies don't even look at resumes directly. Instead software programs look for keywords and a steady stream of long-term employment. In that regard a resume is basically just a de facto 'key' to open up the door for an interview.
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User Info: -Kicksave-

-Kicksave-
3 years ago#24
Maverick3000 posted...
This is a bit different from the requirements Clinton imposed. Clinton was far far more wide ranging and often times just showing you sent resumes or made phone calls qualified. They are essentially requiring people to go out and waste their time on things that really have no effect on improving their employment activities.


Do you have a solution other than let them continue to sit on their ass?
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User Info: CoyoteTheGreat

CoyoteTheGreat
3 years ago#25
Ivashanko posted...
Depending on how 'able bodied' is defined, and if there is some grace period for those who were recently fired, and if the state helps pay for employment training programs, this might not be a terrible idea. There should also be some consideration to those that are spending large amounts of time a week looking for work, however.

Note to Fiscal Conservatives: Employment training programs are not free. When you consider that they must be staffed by people paid at levels far above what making welfare gets you, the locations for them must be leased, materials and curriculum need to be provided, ect, you realize that it only ramps up the cost far beyond what welfare normally would be.


The hope is that, in the long run, such training programs could bring down costs by eventually significantly decreasing the amount of people who are on welfare. Now, I believe that some unemployment is not only structural but healthy, so I do not think it will work that way, but giving access to training programs for people is good just on its own.


Training programs are great, for people that want to be there. Making it a requirement to get welfare though changes the people who are there from being the ones who want to be there to the ones who have to jump through a hoop to get the money.

The performance section for these programs and their cost is always suspiciously missing anyways in the news. I mean, it is a pretty empirical question as to whether making people jump through training program hoops to get welfare actually ends with them finding jobs more than just handing it out, and it is an empirical question as to whether this all ends up in less costs for the state in the long run or not. Instead of performance budgeting data though, we are given political rhetoric, which is unhelpful in making an informed decision as to whether this is good policy or not.
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User Info: Nitro378

Nitro378
3 years ago#26
Yet more slave labour programmes, great.
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User Info: Maverick3000

Maverick3000
3 years ago#27
-Kicksave- posted...


Do you have a solution other than let them continue to sit on their ass?


Actually improve their chances of working.

The "welfare people are lazy" needs to stop. The average welfare recipient DO WORK
we're not all geniuses like you Maverick. >_> - AWrulez

User Info: Nitro378

Nitro378
3 years ago#28
-Kicksave- posted...
Do you have a solution other than let them continue to sit on their ass?


Why act like it's their fault they don't have a job when we already know that the economy doesn't need or want 100% employment anymore? Like do people somehow think that all welfare recipients could get a job if they really wanted when even graduates and people who had long term employment find it hard?
Owen Jones 2015 --- Warren/Sanders 2016
Number of 30-day suspensions received for talking about Zionism: 3

User Info: gogues

gogues
3 years ago#29
Assuming that they're well-funded such that anyone who was eligible wouldn't have an issue doing finding a useful training program near them, I wouldn't have a problem with this.

I also think that it underestimates a lot of welfare recipients to think that a large portion of them wouldn't already be working or doing something constructive. It doesn't exactly give you a lavish lifestyle.

User Info: DogeCoin

DogeCoin
3 years ago#30
Amazing news if true. Should be implemented everywhere.
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