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User Info: DuneMan

DuneMan
3 years ago#111
HypnoCoosh posted...
If you're really concerned about why people can't make a living wage you should do some soul searching on why there are no jobs in America. After you ponder that for a while come back and we can talk then.

Until then stop acting like the big bad evil corporations are at fault and not the government and their regulatory powers.


There are jobs in America, and will continue to be jobs in America. Low skill work, or work that can be done by machines will continue to drift overseas where people in other countries work for the equivalent of a dollar a day. America needs to look to skilled work and expanding ideas for the possibilities of technology and logistics.

But there's also the 'problem' that the largest sector of employment in the US is in the service economy. These are your folks working retail, or food service, or any other basic service. That larger proportion of folks are the ones who see their finances squeezed. They're the ones some might off-handedly write off as 'losers in society'. But speaking from a mathematical standpoint there will always be people in those positions. Having folks like that receive basic assistance like an EBT Card to supplement their wages, which likely go to things like rent and automotive expenses, is something a morally upright society might elect to do to look after its own citizenry, recognizing that they provide a necessary if inglamorous function for the population as a whole. That's a big schism point between left and right politics though.
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User Info: Goatthief

Goatthief
3 years ago#112
Nitro378 posted...
HypnoCoosh posted...
I just ignored nitro. His same old tired routine is worn out and old.


it's totally libruls that can't deal with other opinions right?


Interesting how in the other topic he's riding Runner's ass about using the ignore list, but now that Coosh is doing it to someone it's not a problem.
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User Info: DuneMan

DuneMan
3 years ago#113
Numba1linesmen posted...
So you would agree with only making violent crimes against the law? Please answer the question.


One, I never said anything about legalizing anything. That's a straw man argument. If you reread the previous post you'd see that I essentially said that you can find alternatives to locking someone up behind bars for 20 years for having an ounce of weed. -_-

When that individual is finally released after those 20 years they're basically unemployable and hardened by more hardcore criminal elements behind bars. You've essentially made the situation worse.
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User Info: Numba1linesmen

Numba1linesmen
3 years ago#114
Goatthief posted...
Interesting how in the other topic he's riding Runner's ass about using the ignore list, but now that Coosh is doing it to someone it's not a problem.


I'm not Coosh boss...the same applies to him. It is a silly feature.

What is more interesting is you just come in here to post about me instead of just contributing to the topic.
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User Info: UnknownSuspect

UnknownSuspect
3 years ago#115
Numba1linesmen posted...
unknown_suspect posted...
Numba1linesmen posted...
HypnoCoosh posted...
Should make them drug test too if they want government handouts.


agreed


You guys do realize that Florida tried this and it was struck down in court as unconstitutional, right? That and it was also literally more expensive than just giving out the welfare.


link?


http://www.miamiherald.com/news/politics-government/article1958891.html
http://mobile.nytimes.com/2012/04/18/us/no-savings-found-in-florida-welfare-drug-tests.html
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User Info: HypnoCoosh

HypnoCoosh
3 years ago#116
Goatthief posted...
Nitro378 posted...
HypnoCoosh posted...
I just ignored nitro. His same old tired routine is worn out and old.


it's totally libruls that can't deal with other opinions right?


Interesting how in the other topic he's riding Runner's ass about using the ignore list, but now that Coosh is doing it to someone it's not a problem.


Well when you use it against posters like nitro it just makes sense.
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User Info: Numba1linesmen

Numba1linesmen
3 years ago#117
unknown_suspect posted...
http://www.miamiherald.com/news/politics-government/article1958891.html


Interesting

The cost doesn't matter to me at all, but the percentage of marijuana fails are interesting. However, the other side could also look at it and say this measure could have helped discourage drug use as well.
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User Info: Numba1linesmen

Numba1linesmen
3 years ago#118
Apparently Wisconsin and Montana are looking into Drug Test for applicants though.

http://www.kaj18.com/news/bill-would-require-drug-tests-when-applying-for-government-financial-assistance/

http://news.yahoo.com/walker-announces-drug-testing-plan-aid-recipients-160418725.html;_ylt=A0LEVibo0MdUaVkAizQPxQt.
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User Info: FighterMcWar

FighterMcWar
3 years ago#119
Numba1linesmen posted...
unknown_suspect posted...
http://www.miamiherald.com/news/politics-government/article1958891.html


Interesting

The cost doesn't matter to me at all, but the percentage of marijuana fails are interesting. However, the other side could also look at it and say this measure could have helped discourage drug use as well.


...you were just shown that the costs outweigh the benefits. How unbelievably in denial do you have to be? Yes there is people on drugs who receive some form of welfare, but figuring out who they are costs more than just letting them receive their funds.
Lets explain it in a way you might understand better, in retail the current trend is to let shoplifters leave with merchandise unhindered unless they were visibly seen committing the act. With the exception of large purchase items such as TV's, etc, this is becoming something that even stores with store front alert systems do. The issue is externalities, the costs to business of pulling someone aside who is suspected of stealing and the negative experience it has on other shoppers and their shopping experience is more than the cost of the goods, as numerous studies have proven. I know this may sound insane but the cost of catching a criminal is sometimes more than the cost of the goods and you have to make a judgement call on which is more important.
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User Info: Numba1linesmen

Numba1linesmen
3 years ago#120
Nirvna9 posted...
...you were just shown that the costs outweigh the benefits.


and I just said the cost wasn't important to me
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