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User Info: DarkJaguar124

DarkJaguar124
3 days ago#1
Get buff, nerf, or left alone? - Results (48 votes)
Buff
43.75% (21 votes)
21
Nerf
27.08% (13 votes)
13
Left Alone
29.17% (14 votes)
14
This poll is now closed.
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Day 20: Cetrion-Nerf
Day 21: Scorpion-Nerf
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User Info: Mister_Fresh

Mister_Fresh
2 days ago#2
Her D2 needs more recovery frames. She needs to give up something for having the best D2 in the game coupled with the most braindead spam in Variation 1.
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User Info: LightningAce11

LightningAce11
2 days ago#4
Nerf. A zoner does not need good options.
I want you to grab your nuts. Grab your balls. I want you to take a handful, and just grab your nuts real quick. Swivel 'em around in a circular motion.
-LTG

User Info: SasTheVirtuous

SasTheVirtuous
2 days ago#5
Mister_Fresh posted...
Her D2 needs more recovery frames. She needs to give up something for having the best D2 in the game coupled with the most braindead spam in Variation 1.

@onlyskin, I'm waiting for your comments (except for fat shaming, perhaps). :)

User Info: corrrayyyy

corrrayyyy
2 days ago#6
Leave her as as. Slight tweak to her D2 perhaps. Other than that she really doesn't have any BS OP moves.
"Only fools fight Edenians"

User Info: Fell

Fell
2 days ago#7
I love how people wanted to leave Kabal alone but nerf Jade. This is like mind blowing levels of scrubbery... Characters like Frost, Shang, Baraka and others people want to be left alone are stronger than Jade (according to every pro and simple tournament/high rank KL presence), but yeah, nerf Jade. Like, what..?

On virtually every tier list ever Jade is low or mid tier, or A tier with Jaded variation. The only one calling her S tier is Sonic (also Jaded, he argues the other 2 variations are trash) and not even he can make her work very well enough to use in tournaments.

You never see Jade in tournament and if you do she doesn't do well. And you do NOT see her zoning variation Emerald, the one the most useless of the scrubs her whine about.
You never see Jade in high rank KL, and if you do it's the rare Jaded.

Jade has no punish damage, she has slow and often unsafe frames, she has whiffing issues and one of the worst projectiles in the game and if you want to zone with her in variation 1 she has bad zoning that lacks pushback, damage, combo potential, is slow and unsafe.

The only ones who ever complain about Jade are basically scrubs on GFaqs, that are so bad at the fundementals in MK11 that they can't deal with her long range but slow normals or bad zoning; it's like they don't know how to duck, hop and block. They are that bad. It's like they don't know how to space their s***, or know her frames to even do a basic punish on her, they don't know what a back dash to catch her whiffing means, like.. how are you losing to jade? Is it her B343? just flawless block last 4 or d1 on a basic read? Is it her nitro kick? Bait it and d2 into full combo, or even block and punish? Is it her B2 stick? He incredibly slow F2? Like what? Check her frames, punish?

Jade is a joke at high level and not even close to the actual S Tiers like Liu, Geras, Jacqui, Johnny, Cetrion, Cassie and the others. If you can't beat a Jade it's either;
A You don't know Jade's frames or your characters
B You are very, very bad at this game or the Jade player is much, much better than you
Raiden, Frost, Sub Zero, Noob Saibot, Jade, D'vorah

User Info: Fell

Fell
2 days ago#8
Mister_Fresh posted...
Her D2 needs more recovery frames. She needs to give up something for having the best D2 in the game coupled with the most braindead spam in Variation 1.

All she has is that D2. She is evenly matched or inferior in virtually every single way to most other characters apart from that D2. She has a fast nitro kick and a decent mid and a good glow, nice reach on D4 and B2. Jaded is good, not great, and v1 and v3 are bad.

If you lose to a spamming Jade you are seriously bad. There is a reason why you never see zoner Jade in tournaments or high level KL; it doesn't work and only bad players lose to it. You can't nerf a character based on if bad players lose to her; it would be like nerfing Shao Kahn because people can't handle is charge or sweeps.
Raiden, Frost, Sub Zero, Noob Saibot, Jade, D'vorah

User Info: Fell

Fell
2 days ago#9
LightningAce11 posted...
Nerf. A zoner does not need good options.

She is a bad zoner though. Only scrubs lose to her zoning.
Raiden, Frost, Sub Zero, Noob Saibot, Jade, D'vorah

User Info: Benlo

Benlo
2 days ago#10
Buff.

- delete her dial-in combo (for Kitana too).
- add an amplify version of bf2/butterfly, to have a standard/decent launcher.
- remove the db2 reflect from Untamable or rework it.
- increase her damages. She hardly does +300 damages with many hits when Sonya, Kung Lao or some others do 300-350 with just 8-10 hits.
(edited 2 days ago)
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