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GreyRainCloud
9 months ago#1
I am still doing my very first run of the game, after buying the entire trilogy on the same day. I was originally very eager to continue through with the games, but I find myself really enjoying DS1.

I know the game offers subsequent harder runs after it is completed. How does it differ from the first run, and would you advise I play the game for a second time, or move on to the second after finishing it?
"We are in a period of such individualism that one no longer speaks of disciples; one speaks of thieves." - Jean Cocteau

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tuch
9 months ago#2
What changes?

Most progress is undone (asides from the exceptions listed below in "What stays the same?"). Levels need to be beaten again, killed NPCs will be living again, etc.
Enemies hit harder, can take more damage, and are harder to kill as a result. Even small enemies can put out a lot of damage, but they also give more souls.
You lose all of your Embers. Craft weapons before starting NG+.
You lose all of your Keys except for the Master Key.
You lose all of your Bonfire Items except for the Bottomless Box. Without the Lordvessel, you can no longer warp, and all of your warp locations are lost. I.E. you will need to find the ash lake bonfire again before you can warp there, even once reaquiring the Lordvessel.
You lose the Orange Charred Ring and the Covenant of Artorias ring.
Domhnall of Zena sells you Gwyn's armor, the Great Lord's Set.
You can offer the Soul of Gwyn, Lord of Cinder at the Altar of Sunlight as a rank +1 member of the Warrior of Sunlight covenant to receive the Sunlight Spear miracle.
Rite of Kindling is removed; however, kindled bonfires retain their status.
You cannot level up until you get to Firelink Shrine, so try not to lose the souls received from Gwyn, Lord of Cinder before you get there.
You can now be infected with Gravelord Black Phantoms, in NG+ or higher.

What stays the same?

Enemy behavior remains the same, but with higher stamina and damage output, they may appear to be more aggressive at times.
You keep your equipment, stats, souls, and items (except for the items mentioned above).
Your Estus Flask level stays the same.
You keep your covenant and rank.
Bonfires keep their status. Bonfires kindled three times in the first playthrough will have the same status in NG+ and provide the same number of flasks.
Oscar, Knight of Astora gives you the Big Pilgrim's Key regardless of New Game iteration, after you've killed the Asylum Demon.

source - http://darksouls.wikidot.com/new-game-plus
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User Info: GreyRainCloud

GreyRainCloud
9 months ago#3
Thanks! So the main point is becoming higher in SL for PvP?
"We are in a period of such individualism that one no longer speaks of disciples; one speaks of thieves." - Jean Cocteau

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tuch
9 months ago#4
Thanks! So the main point is becoming higher in SL for PvP?

No, you don't need to increase the NG level in order to gain more SL. You can get as high a SL as you want in NG just through grinding regular enemies.

The main point of NG+ is to go through the game again with tougher enemies and bosses. A side effect of the bosses coming back is that you can PVP in other (non-end game) areas again.
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GreyRainCloud
9 months ago#5
I see. So, can an NG+ player with SL of 16 play with/against a first-run player of the same SL if they are in the same place? Or are NG+, NG2 and so forth in separate multiplayer pools (ie not matchable between them?)
"We are in a period of such individualism that one no longer speaks of disciples; one speaks of thieves." - Jean Cocteau

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tuch
9 months ago#6
So, can an NG+ player with SL of 16 play with/against a first-run player of the same SL if they are in the same place?

Yes, they can.
"Wrong again, idiot." ~ Prof. Farnsworth

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GreyRainCloud
9 months ago#7
That's good to hear at least.
"We are in a period of such individualism that one no longer speaks of disciples; one speaks of thieves." - Jean Cocteau
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